An example of just some of the people who are stufing this forum

[Connections]

Ok so I am giving some advice about this site in a thread,

then instantly I get abused by these 10 year old kids....

http://www.myspacepros.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8673&page=5


I mean you guys say this forum has all ways been cool...

I mean 1 year ago I cant even remember this kind of junk....


I am not having a wine over nothing I mean why do these kids have to act this way?

they are making this forum look like a joke...

I know Ash Bo wants to act all mature but how can she act mature when her friends all act like they are still int he 5th grade.

oh well....in a few days you wont see much of me any more...Ive tried and i think its a little too late for this place..


also a quality members like the boys at pyzam join and they have some issues with their links...what do the myspace pros memebrs do, give them abuse...

http://www.myspacepros.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108129&postcount=26

"Yeah dudes, screw em. My cousins site is just as biug, but she doiesnt screw with people around. She'll flat out tell em."

"Did the same to me. Was also sending traffic. Hes a scammer."

wow lets scare off all the huge members...what a good idea


thanks

[Kasami2k4]

Uh, he DID scam us. We put the new code up, and still got scammed. HOW is that scaring off big owners? Pleaaase enlighten us.

Hey, does anyone have the theme to 'days of our lives' so we can attach it to this thread?

[tyranny]

I don't post here that often and don't know enough about the Pyzam situation to have an educated opinion. But I would like to state that I share many of the same concerns Jamie voiced about this forum. I much preferred this forum when it's focus was running social networking resource sites.

I don't blame Greg or the admins because as Greg stated before, once you start a forum you really don't have that much control over it. Also they haven't monetized this forum at all and it's hard to blame someone who's not even taking a profit.

But I find myself checking this forum less frequently and only looking for new product for sale. It's a shame, it could be so much more.

[Selena]

I don't post hardly at all anymore either. I agree theres a difference in the forum from when I first joined, and I don't really like the change.

I preferred the older community a lot more, I'll admit that, and I know there are some valued young members, but there are some that stuff the forum with nonsense and even I can tell that. Some people, and there are some older memebers included in "some" as well, just don't know how to argue a point in a mature way, and you can't blame the forum as a whole for that, you can only blame those members as individuals.

[rize]

I don't post hardly at all anymore either. I agree theres a difference in the forum from when I first joined, and I don't really like the change.

I preferred the older community a lot more, I'll admit that, and I know there are some valued young members, but there are some that stuff the forum with nonsense and even I can tell that. Some people, and there are some older memebers included in "some" as well, just don't know how to argue a point in a mature way, and you can't blame the forum as a whole for that, you can only blame those members as individuals.

i agree....

[RKGraphics]

i also agree that there are some people on here that make the forum hard to stick around. i first joined in feb (first account) and it was so much fun. my post count when to 1k really fast.

the mods/admins/users were as one and although there was the occasional arguement, it was between mature, more civilized people. even some of those people have gotten so fed up that they are attacking others now.

then there are some who try to have fun and get attacked any ways. you can't blame any one person. you can only represent yourself and either take the high road or contribute to the issue that has many concerned.

i was blamed for something that really really outraged me, i took the low road and kept buying in to it. i should have just completely ignored it because i knew what i was posting and what i meant. i have also posted similar "positive" more constructive comments but they went un-noticed and people just continued to point fingers and call names. its a shame. those of us that were here and know how it was, can make it how it was if we really wanted to try. ;)

or we can just wait it out and see what happens.

i'll be honest. i really miss a lot of the members that used to be on here all the time. :(

[Kasami2k4]

I stopped coming on the forum alot because some of the posts are just CHILDISH. And half the time I see connections, he's insulting my cousin one way or another.. It really gets to me.. Plus, the HQ stuff people sell isn't even really HQ... It looks put together in 2 mins. I RARELY buy stuff, unless I think it's worth it. It used to be, and now because of some kind of forum economic crash, things are all crappy and pennies.. Well.. Get what you pay for..

[George]

one word... kville

The perfect analogy for all this would that this forum is like a high-rise business building full of professionals that suddenly opened the doors and started renting office space to early teenagers trying to run their own business.

Then wondering why things got bad.

They're not too bad though. I can tolerate them myself. I just don't buy here anymore and just check in for the latest drama.

[RKGraphics]

um. i miss george's oneliners too

[minnseoelite]

one word... kville

The perfect analogy for all this would that this forum is like a high-rise business building full of professionals that suddenly opened the doors and started renting office space to early teenagers trying to run their own business.

Then wondering why the place went to crap ROFL


lol i think that is the best explanation I have heard yet

[RKGraphics]

@ george

ive never been to kville. i still get pm's for customs. maybe its time some of the good designers come back and make quality packs....i think the only reason why they haven't is because they are all busy doing customs.

i have had to turn down so many offers already, and now im delayed because of some system issues and now returning to work full time. :(

[Kasami2k4]

Eeep yeah im up to my neck in customs right now ._. Id love to make a pack soon though..

[RKGraphics]

you know who else i've been thinking about.....JCs

[minnseoelite]

you know who else i've been thinking about.....JCs


yeahhh she had some cool graphics, wonder when/if she will ever be back

[rize]

where is she?

[Kasami2k4]

Yeah, I miss Julie. WTF IS SHE

[RKGraphics]

yeahhh she had some cool graphics, wonder when/if she will ever be back

more importantly, i wonder if she's ok.

i miss kenzie and haley, and gracie....and sometimes dale
and rize (though you're here tonight)

OMG :whackit:
sorry. im just in that type of mood. i miss a lot of people on here.

mrwizard and his funny posts, carlee, whosthatgirl, and so many others that i cant even begin to name that just dont come around.

and there are so many valued members on here that have helped me tons and i think all of them should get the wii. :turned:

i should go to the vent thread and just pout about how i miss everybody. LOL

[candysplash]

one word... kville

The perfect analogy for all this would that this forum is like a high-rise business building full of professionals that suddenly opened the doors and started renting office space to early teenagers trying to run their own business.

Then wondering why things got bad.

They're not too bad though. I can tolerate them myself. I just don't buy here anymore and just check in for the latest drama.

Even though I did originate from kville (:P) I agree. The only reason they join is for the freebies, and the free generators that Chris offers. Go on the thread and go near the end, and most of the people who wanted one are newbies whom originated from kville. They came, took the gens, and BAM. They're gone, or sometimes the stick around. Just my 2 cents. :santa:

[rize]

more importantly, i wonder if she's ok.

i miss kenzie and haley, and gracie....and sometimes dale
and rize (though you're here tonight)

OMG :whackit:
sorry. im just in that type of mood. i miss a lot of people on here.

mrwizard and his funny posts, carlee, whosthatgirl, and so many others that i cant even begin to name that just dont come around.

and there are so many valued members on here that have helped me tons and i think all of them should get the wii. :turned:

i should go to the vent thread and just pout about how i miss everybody. LOL
i miss the ppl u mentioned too.. :( i barely go here cuz of school.. i miss you too tina :winkiss:

[RKGraphics]

Even though I did originate from kville (:P) I agree. The only reason they join is for the freebies, and the free generators that Chris offers. Go on the thread and go near the end, and most of the people who wanted one are newbies whom originated from kville. They came, took the gens, and BAM. They're gone, or sometimes the stick around. Just my 2 cents. :santa:


oh yeah. im telling you. they were slowly coming in. then i think the firesale did us all in. some of those packs (N) then poof, those peeps are gone.

edit//and let me tell you about the pic pack i got. what a bunch of crap that was. im sure many of you saw it. they didnt even spice up the text. just glittered the border with crap

[minnseoelite]

more importantly, i wonder if she's ok.

i miss kenzie and haley, and gracie....and sometimes dale
and rize (though you're here tonight)


i agree alot of the cool members have vanished for the most part

[Kasami2k4]

I stole rize. Shes on my YIM :) But always in school :(

[candysplash]

oh yeah. im telling you. they were slowly coming in. then i think the firesale did us all in. some of those packs (N) then poof, those peeps are gone.

edit//and let me tell you about the pic pack i got. what a bunch of crap that was. im sure many of you saw it. they didnt even spice up the text. just glittered the border with crap

Yeah. So much for HIGH quality. :rolleyes:
Anyways, everytime someone makes a thread on kville like "were do i get a generator like dis" some members are like myspacepros. Then, I post, please do not join just because the freebies, they are all like, "oh no! i wont." Then BAM I check MSP and here they are, requesting the generator. What explanation do I get? "i already was a member here" rofl

[RKGraphics]

lets gather in a circle and sing

Kumbaya my lord....kumbaya. LOL

im going to bed. laters

[candysplash]

lets gather in a circle and sing

Kumbaya my lord....kumbaya. LOL

im going to bed. laters

LOL G'night! :sleeping:

[RKGraphics]

Yeah. So much for HIGH quality. :rolleyes:
Anyways, everytime someone makes a thread on kville like "were do i get a generator like dis" some members are like myspacepros. Then, I post, please do not join just because the freebies, they are all like, "oh no! i wont." Then BAM I check MSP and here they are, requesting the generator. What explanation do I get? "i already was a member here" rofl


tell them to go to DP. they are being offered there too by chris. tell them no more freebies here. ;)

[SlickEddie]

So how do we turn things around?

[candysplash]

tell them to go to DP. they are being offered there too by chris. tell them no more freebies here. ;)

LOL Ship them away! I'll do that from now on ;)

[geg2]

I miss JCs too. She's still updating her site and her Myspace. I wish she would come back and offer her great picture comments. She sold a pack of 50 or so for only $10 but they were certainly HQ.

I hope she's OK, considering what she went through.

[Michelle]

I don't post hardly at all anymore either. I agree theres a difference in the forum from when I first joined, and I don't really like the change.

I preferred the older community a lot more, I'll admit that, and I know there are some valued young members, but there are some that stuff the forum with nonsense and even I can tell that. Some people, and there are some older memebers included in "some" as well, just don't know how to argue a point in a mature way, and you can't blame the forum as a whole for that, you can only blame those members as individuals.

I agree as well. =/ This forum has changed alot, I'm not quite sure if it's a positive or negative change yet.

[RKGraphics]

So how do we turn things around?

we gather and have a group hug.

for real. its just up to us as respected members to not buy in to the immature postings, and to try and keep things positive. as buyers, just watch your back and demand to see the full pack samples. you are the customer. you dont have to throw away your money.

none of us have to tolerate the immaturity that goes on here. but responding in an immature way only makes things worse. we can all be role models and lead by example. my two cents. that i keep saying over and over again. and again, unnoticed in other threads because everybody wants to just keep playing the blame game.

i think we look within ourselves to just be who we are, and be more mature when needed, and lighten up when needed. and maybe we can guide the rest of the "others" back to the way it was. :clap:

[SlickEddie]

guide the rest of the "others" back to the way it was. :clap:

so we should set some ground rules for conduct and have the mods ensure that these rules are enforced...

[candysplash]

so we should set some ground rules for conduct and have the mods ensure that these rules are enforced...

Yep. Orr, we could have a hug! <33 :biggrin:

No really, we need rules, and if they are not followed member will get banned. Maybe put a 50 post minimum to view the freebie thread?

[RKGraphics]

so we should set some ground rules for conduct and have the mods ensure that these rules are enforced?

i think ground rules would be nice for places such as the marketplace.

i think as members we can contribute just by leading by example and not buying in to some of the really bad arguements going on here. i think if the finger pointing stops, or is dealt with in pm's, it will lighten things up a bit.

i know Greg doesn't like to police the forum and impose so many rules, but i do think it is needed in areas, and i think enforcing warnings on those who break the rules would be appropriate.

i think the mods need to have a clear understanding on what is expected of them and i just honestly think those of us who want to see change HAVE to contribute to that change. the mods/admins cannot do it by themselves just by deleting posts and handing out warnings.

i do think the rep system is tarded and maybe should be re-evaluated. so many things can be done. but you know, we can just be positive role models for the rest of the forum and just hope that others will follow.

[RKGraphics]

i think a minimum post rule for freebies is a great idea!!

didnt i say i was going to bed?

oh edit// and i know people will try and spam threads to get to that minimum post. so maybe more than just 4 mods are needed to monitor newbie's posting just to get up their post count for certain things.

[rize]

yah i think the rep thing should be removed

[RKGraphics]

one last thought before i call it a night. i do know that Greg has mentioned several times that he spends so many hours away from his family so that they can get their social networking site up and running soon.

on top of that, he comes here to try and run the forum. everytime he is confronted with issues, he calmly posts that he is willing to help. people that busy can honestly get so side tracked that things like what has been brought up today, may completely be overlooked. he stands by his standards and i agree with him and those who have said, if you are not willing to contribute to making change and all you want to do is complain and make things worse, then why stick around.

i dont think he meant it in a harsh way to make people leave, but he's right. if you cant help out what's going on. and you can't pm him with issues and suggestions, and all you do is post thread after thread after thread just complaining, then why are you here?

so i would just say, have faith in him and Des. they have a lot on their plate. and im sure they are dealing the best that they can with all the issues on here.

[SlickEddie]

one last thought before i call it a night.


lol, you can pick up the battle again in the morning.

[Kasami2k4]

Yeah.. Sucks being that busy.

[RKGraphics]

eh. its not really a battle. its just that i have so many thoughts running through my head because im so tired. and im going to be soooo busy that i will hardly be on in the next few days. but nighty night

[Connections]

I stopped coming on the forum alot because some of the posts are just CHILDISH. And half the time I see connections, he's insulting my cousin one way or another.. It really gets to me...


How is giving advice insulting here?

I have never once insulted your cousins.

Please post evidence of me insulting here?

I only stated her site gets heaps of direct traffic and not much SE traffic,

I stated the demographic is mainly young girls.

You and your whatever life friend's are way to defensive.



You are scaring off good members, why have a myspace resource site when all the good members are just turned away by the junk members on here who contribute nothing but may be a few cheap graphics.

[hayley]

more importantly, i wonder if she's ok.

i miss kenzie and haley, and gracie....and sometimes dale
and rize (though you're here tonight)

OMG :whackit:
sorry. im just in that type of mood. i miss a lot of people on here.

mrwizard and his funny posts, carlee, whosthatgirl, and so many others that i cant even begin to name that just dont come around.

and there are so many valued members on here that have helped me tons and i think all of them should get the wii. :turned:

i should go to the vent thread and just pout about how i miss everybody. LOL


Aww thanks<3 I haven't been coming on here as much anymore, i left kville because of all the kthxbaii etc and this forum is turning into all that jazz, which is a shame. I know i'm young but i dnt tlk lyk dis or spam peoples threads etc. And with all the glitter designers comingg here from kville it makes it harder to sell anything.

[rize]

i miss pookie............

[mawt]

I don't really have much too say these days- half the threads are full of **** now....

[Jordan]

Forums change, it's what happens.
I do agree that it's changed a lot but really, you can't do much about that especially seeing as this is a completely public forum.

Some of the increasingly immature posts do annoy me, but eh what are you going to do about it - ban every member that comes across as immature? Give red rep to every post you don't agree with?
People have different views, attitudes and personalities...learn to accept that.
If everyone agreed with everyone then the board would be completely biased and personally I think a wide range of opinions is better than an invalid one.

What I think would help is having a couple of moderators spread out with the timezones, that way there can always be at least one moderator on at a time to keep an eye on everything. I don't like having a completely moderated forum but when there's personal attacks being made and pointless posts ruining threads everywhere, it's probably worth it and definitely beneficial to the community.

[Mixi]

I agree with Connections in the last few days If I try to recall the majority of threads they have been mostly about misunderstanding and people red repping and acting childish. I see alot of people taking things personal intead of from a business standpoint. It is really sad alot of the great members are leaving because of all the drama some people are bringing here.

[RKGraphics]

i miss pookie............

aw...............yes her too.

[letoutpuissant]

I see alot of people taking things personal intead of from a business standpoint. It is really sad alot of the great members are leaving because of all the drama some people are bringing here.

Perfectly well put since this is mainly a business forum after all.

[GreenSpeed21]

This forum should of been invite only. That way it would of been limited to the number of airheads floating around here.

[RKGraphics]

jen has posted a great thread on suggestions.....if you guys have any, maybe you can go there and start posting them.

http://myspacepros.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8984

[Jen]

Thanks nizzle

Hopefully some will be heard

[markp9114]

I agree that the forum has changed quit drastically since the time I joined. I stop by couple times every week and read SO much drama. There's always something someones fighting about. It's to the point where i'm scared and worried to even post my opinion without getting chewed out. Therefore I just stick to reading, and keeping what I have to say to myself. I also agree that it's a public forum, theres not much you can do

and I have a question, how do the people at kville even find their way over here? It could be simple to get rid of the problem..whoever posts at kville, dont give them this site? Don't post the MSP links all over their forum, etc.

[George]

This forum should of been invite only. That way it would of been limited to the number of airheads floating around here.EXACTLY!!!!!

[RKGraphics]

I agree that the forum has changed quit drastically since the time I joined. I stop by couple times every week and read SO much drama. There's always something someones fighting about. It's to the point where i'm scared and worried to even post my opinion without getting chewed out. Therefore I just stick to reading, and keeping what I have to say to myself. I also agree that it's a public forum, theres not much you can do

and I have a question, how do the people at kville even find their way over here? It could be simple to get rid of the problem..whoever posts at kville, dont give them this site? Don't post the MSP links all over their forum, etc.


people just know about all the freebies here and have gotten the word out there. so i told one member to tell them they are available as well on DP....try to redirect people over there :shuriken:

i have a big mouth and i post a lot of my opinions. and no matter how constructive they can be, i was still being attacked. but i think some of those people have been dealt with. so i totally know how you feel. you are one of the peeps that i was mentioning that gives valuable info but doesnt post much anymore. :(

but my pops just got in to town, so cheers everyone.

[xo.Saz.xo]

I don't post hardly at all anymore either. I agree theres a difference in the forum from when I first joined, and I don't really like the change.

I preferred the older community a lot more, I'll admit that, and I know there are some valued young members, but there are some that stuff the forum with nonsense and even I can tell that. Some people, and there are some older memebers included in "some" as well, just don't know how to argue a point in a mature way, and you can't blame the forum as a whole for that, you can only blame those members as individuals.
Agreed. I dont come here & post as much a i used to, for the main reason that this forum has changed alot as more people have joined :yes:

[layoutcentral]

I hardly see any of the people I used to talk with on anymore. I used to talk to Dale alot but I hardly see him on anymore...

[Izzy]

i haven't come here in ages! =/ blimey.

i did orginate from kville but i was here a while back & i agree...things have changed.

[thplooy]

It used to be a Myspacepros forum.
Then Greg added all these chat forums and this forum became a bull **** forum.

[Jazzylee77]

I wonder if something like the buddy list could be used to "view new posts by respected members". There are about 10 people here that occasionally have something intelligent to say.

[mcfox]

Burn Greg at the stake... it's the only solution. :hammer:

[digitalxguilt]

and I have a question, how do the people at kville even find their way over here? It could be simple to get rid of the problem..whoever posts at kville, dont give them this site? Don't post the MSP links all over their forum, etc.

Agreed!

I havent posted in a while due to something happening offline. but before that occured, i stopped posting because it was hard for me to sell my graphics with the people from that place coming here..alot of them selling utter pish..other ripping people off.

I didnt originate from that place, but I think some of the people that have need to quit talking like losers with the kthxbai~ junk. I thought this forum had a bit of professionalism about it, which is the reason I joined.. but since then its changed.. and im not sure wether I like it =/

when ppl tlk lyk dis they let the place down. If you cant type proper english, why bother?

and as for the freebies, i think there should be a post limit put on them. like you need 50 posts in order to access that section.

and the marketplace, at first I was a bit annoyed at having to pay a poxy $5 to sell my graphics. I now realise this is a good thing, because it seperates the decent good stuff from the crap. and the crap stuff..well the seller just loses money.. but why sell crap anyway? who wants to buy it? you make yourself look stupid.

get rid of the people from that place and maybe this place will go back to being how it should be.. drama free. because as much as drama is entertaining, that place has more drama than a tv reality show.. :popcorn:

[minnseoelite]

It used to be a Myspacepros forum.
Then Greg added all these chat forums and this forum became a bull **** forum.


mmmm ok would you rather all the general chat threads take place in the business forums. the general chat forums are in a sub forum of the town hall and do not even show up on the recent threads....the ONLY way you will have to visit or see those threads is IF you are going to those sub forums so if you don't like them so much then WHY are you visiting them. If you don't like them just DONT go to those sub forums :P

[pimpyourdino]

I heard that on kville that some people will accidentally talk about msp and the kville's swarm like bees.

[YabbaDoo]

when ppl tlk lyk dis they let the place down. If you cant type proper english, why bother?

I think judging someone by the way they type is completely off the topic of this thread and virges on pure snobbery and prejudice...Something I've noticed about you in particular, a rather "superior" attitude...

My 2 cents:
Everyone is different, everyone has a different way of thinking and a different personality. I LOVED this Forum until recently....IMHO, I believe the problems come from 3 seperate roots...
* The "Kville" issue people have already brought up. Yep, there is a slightly immature attitude in comparison so I guess that has lowered the proffessional tone of this Forum....
* The mods, I actually believe there's a few mods on this Forum that DON'T DESERVE to be mods, and it makes me wonder how they got there....
* Hipocrisy. Something I have DEFO noticed in this Community recently is the pure hipocrisy coming over people which is the reason I left another Forum. I Hate, Hate, Hateeee....When people bring up drama-starting threads over pathetic things like "OMG SHE NEVER CREDITED ME..." when you go to their site and I find they've used one of mine or my friends fills without crediting ANYWHERE rofl you know who you are...
Then they moan "You stole my layout BG" and you look at it and its THE SIMPSONS MOVIE layouts (the "designer" has just taken a PICTURE/WALLPAPER AND EDITED IT) and called it "their work" LMFAO, ok then....rofl
If you're whiter than white then go for it, moan and ***** about others infringements etc...But when we look at your site and see it's full of stolen crap you'll deny it and just bash the other person "oh, it's not the point" BS!

- Hypocrisy IN GENERAL, drama, IN GENERAL - Cause the downfall of communitys online AND offline....Why can't everyone just keep themselves to themselves stay out of others business and then when they see a problem..Deal with it IN PRIVATE and keep it IN PRIVATE....Just "if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"....
- TAKE IT TO PM/EMAIL unless absolutely neccasary...Most problems can be deal with without having to bring a whole community into it DRAGGING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY SPIRIT DOWN WITH YOU!

Thanks, oh and I can't be assed to spell check so..... :)

[layoutcentral]

I strongly agree.

edit
not so much about vicky but everything else.

[thplooy]

mmmm ok would you rather all the general chat threads take place in the business forums. the general chat forums are in a sub forum of the town hall and do not even show up on the recent threads....the ONLY way you will have to visit or see those threads is IF you are going to those sub forums so if you don't like them so much then WHY are you visiting them. If you don't like them just DONT go to those sub forums :P

You know it all apparently.

Tell me why people are complaining about the quality of this forum?
And what would you do?

[minnseoelite]

You know it all apparently.

Tell me why people are complaining about the quality of this forum?
And what would you do?

I am not in charge so it does not matter what I would do. And yes most of the stuff that people have brought up concerning the mods, the way certain members are delt with I DO know the real reasons behind these things but unfortunately I can't say.

But hypothetically speaking IF I could do things my way all the people on here that like to just troll the forums looking to flame other members would be gone, banned, do not pass go do not collect $200. That is just one area I don't feel like typing everything else I would change and like I said not my forum the final decision is up to others.

[rob]

* The mods, I actually believe there's a few mods on this Forum that DON'T DESERVE to be mods, and it makes me wonder how they got there....

* Hipocrisy. Something I have DEFO noticed in this Community recently is the pure hipocrisy coming over people which is the reason I left another Forum. I Hate, Hate, Hateeee....When people bring up drama-starting threads over pathetic things like "OMG SHE NEVER CREDITED ME..." when you go to their site and I find they've used one of mine or my friends fills without crediting ANYWHERE rofl you know who you are...
Then they moan "You stole my layout BG" and you look at it and its THE SIMPSONS MOVIE layouts (the "designer" has just taken a PICTURE/WALLPAPER AND EDITED IT) and called it "their work" LMFAO, ok then....rofl

couldn't agree more with these two points

[RKGraphics]

my last two cents before i actually go outside and have fun.

1. it doesnt matter how the mods got there now. there's only 4 so wonder who you could be talking about....hmmm. yes, they have made mistakes. but they are trying. and im sure ALL of them including Greg, are reading all of the suggestions and its got their attention.

2. like the 10th time i've said it. its all about how you react and conduct yourself. the business should be left in the business forums, the chat and BS should be left in the chat forums. like jason said, you have to go there to view those subforums. they don't pop up on the main index page. so if you don't like it, don't go there.

3. more restrictions should be placed on newbies for SO many reason that are already listed.

4. more mods, more monitoring. and everybody just lighten up. please. life is too short to sit here and point fingers at eachother and worry about who's not getting credit for "this" or "that". the more offensive stuff, the more crucial stuff can be handled via pm. there shouldn't be any reason why anybody has to publicly come out and point fingers unless its to be a jerk. i can see, as a last resort, posting something constructively to try and get answers for an issue.

[RexAngel]

- Hypocrisy IN GENERAL, drama, IN GENERAL - Cause the downfall of communitys online AND offline....Why can't everyone just keep themselves to themselves stay out of others business and then when they see a problem..Deal with it IN PRIVATE and keep it IN PRIVATE....Just "if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"....
- TAKE IT TO PM/EMAIL unless absolutely neccasary...Most problems can be deal with without having to bring a whole community into it DRAGGING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY SPIRIT DOWN WITH YOU!

I completely agree with you, especially with this point about hypocrisy. It's funny how much hypocrisy exists in this thread alone.

Anyways I tend to come on this forum and mind my own business, but coming across this thread I don't appreciate the judgemental comments about Kville. Members who were originally from there and came to this forum represent themselves, NOT Kville, so judge them as individuals, don't judge them as a whole forum.

And MSP links aren't posted all over Kville. I've seen it mentioned maybe 2 or 3 times.

[thplooy]

But hypothetically speaking IF I could do things my way all the people on here that like to just troll the forums looking to flame other members would be gone, banned, do not pass go do not collect $200. That is just one area I don't feel like typing everything else I would change and like I said not my forum the final decision is up to others.

My opinion:
It's a choice between a lot of members and a lot of chit chat and childrens play, or a forum for Myspacepros with fewer members but with quality postings.

btw,
Thanks for answering.

[offthedome]

There is a minimum post for freebies. It was 15 when I first joined. Who knows what it is now.

I think one way to turn people away is, keep the 15 post minimum rule, but make a new rule that they have no red rep in the past 7 days if they're under 100 post. And make an unofficial rule that if you see someone padding their thread count, then you should give them red rep. I already do that if the post quality is piss poor.

[lyzyrdgyzyrd]

and i post a lot of my opinions. and no matter how constructive they can be, i was still being attacked.

Hell, I've posted honest, straightforward, and sensible opinions in threads where they were asked for, and been attacked by "moderators" asking me it my brain is working or if I am having a bad hair day or something. That crap is for the birds.

[Kyle]

I stopped coming here for one reason.

It's the old addage - "You slowly become the average of the 7 people you are around the most."

Now if this forum was full of baller webmasters like it used to be I'd stick around and try to learn a few things.

Proof has got to be Minnseolite . I used to listen to a lot what he said but dude has transformed "into" a kviller. I can't believe one person's posts can go from totally business to total BS about nothing and cluttering up the forums. I have seen minn go from a respected webmasters to "one of them" in a few short months, which is sad.

I still come to this forum for ONE reason - to deal with the many great businessmen and women who I do business with, however, eventually that will all be moved to IM.

Just my 2 cents.

[minnseoelite]

Proof has got to be Minnseolite . I used to listen to a lot what he said but dude has transformed "into" a kviller. I can't believe one person's posts can go from totally business to total BS about nothing and cluttering up the forums. I have seen minn go from a respected webmasters to "one of them" in a few short months, which is sad.


thanks man :) good to know i can still have fun and conduct business at the same time.

[Kasami2k4]

Haha dudes, get rid of this thread, it's retarded. If you've got issues with someone, let's try to handle it in PM from now on hey?

[Kyle]

thanks man :) good to know i can still have fun and conduct business at the same time.

It wasn't an insult as much as a wake up call. Do with it as you please.

You were the one talking on mspros on your Damn bday.

The point is I'm not gonna sift through the crap to find a good post by you, when most of your old posts were all good.

[rob]

Proof has got to be Minnseolite . I used to listen to a lot what he said but dude has transformed "into" a kviller. I can't believe one person's posts can go from totally business to total BS about nothing and cluttering up the forums. I have seen minn go from a respected webmasters to "one of them" in a few short months, which is sad.

yup, i think i have something like 60% "warnings" or whatever from this guy for no reason. he's very immature. the minute you say anything remotely criticizing him he throws warnings and sends these stupid pager messages popping up on my damn screen that i don't want to see from him. greg needs to do something about him soon.

the rest of the moderators are fine. although mcfox was probably the most intelligent one... no idea why he isn't one anymore.

[PGZ]

Mark this thread down as one of the childish ones the poster himself talks about....I cant believe this.

This forum is what YOU as an individual make it. Connections you had an issue with some PP sub that YOU didnt cancel. Any actual business person knows that you CANCEL unwanted subs....Its daily business. You got pissed and just blew a gasket and now here you are again just trying to stir the pot even more. Its because of threads right here that many of you are complaining to begin with.

Your selling your domains and your sites in your temper pouting and you start threads like this just to piss certain people off.....Who gives a crap of how Ashbo gets traffic....She Freaking gets it and thats all that matters. It doesnt matter if it appeals to martians or 12 yr old girls here on earth.

What the issue with if its SEO or direct type in ?? NOTHING

Traffic is Traffic and thats all that matters.....You think MySpace itself gets massive SEO traffic....Hell no people know it and they type it in.

Connections if you plan on leaving just do it cause it seems to me all your doing is trying to cause issue with different members within the forum..

Like I said this place is what YOU make it. If you let stupid stuff get to ya then YOU yourself have issues.

This is all my opinion as I have just been looking from the outside in and havent said anything but how many more threads are going to be made over such CHILDISH stuff......PLEASE

[thplooy]

I stopped coming here for one reason.

It's the old addage - "You slowly become the average of the 7 people you are around the most."

Now if this forum was full of baller webmasters like it used to be I'd stick around and try to learn a few things.


I got really nauseous when I saw grown-up people posting stuff like:
"Last one posts wins".

[RKGraphics]

I got really nauseous when I saw grown-up people posting stuff like:
"Last one posts wins".

thats in the fun and games forum. started by one of the former mods. idea by the admin. something that was new at the time and we had a lot of fun with. it has died down now. but still. its in a forum that you do not have to go and venture in to.

[minnseoelite]

ok so back on track what do we have so far

1. More restrictions on new members

2. General chit chat spilling into the business forums

3. Minimum post restriction for the freebies section

4. More enforcement of the forum rules

5. And rob don't like me :P jk rob :cheers:


Seriously is there anything else that people would like to bring up that has not already been discussed on Jen's thread?

[quickbeam]

Can users have the option to filter out post from forums when using the "New Posts" button?

I only come here to learn about Myspace Marketing and support for Greg's scripts. I don't really care about the "Town Hall" forums, though I do realize that some people might care about those forums. That is why I think it would be good for users to have an option on which Posts they want to see when clicking the "New Posts" button.

[minnseoelite]

Can users have the option to filter out post from forums when using the "New Posts" button?

I only come here to learn about Myspace Marketing and support for Greg's scripts. I don't really care about the "Town Hall" forums, though I do realize that some people might care about those forums. That is why I think it would be good for users to have an option on which Posts they want to see when clicking the "New Posts" button.


Hmmm that would be cool, I don't know if it can be made that specific but perhaps the Town Hall as a whole could be removed from the new posts.......

[Jazzylee77]

Hmmm that would be cool, I don't know if it can be made that specific but perhaps the Town Hall as a whole could be removed from the new posts.......
I'd vote for that (not that there is a vote)...and this suggestions forum since it gets pretty whiny too. Put all the non biz stuff underground.

[Dale]

I have been "away" from here for awhile, and it has done me alot of good. I actually have a life now :P I hate how much MyspacePros has changed, and sadly I have seen alot of my friends leave. I joined here to do business, and make some new friends. This used to be my daily hangout and I spent entirely too much time reading the drama, etc. This place has changed alot, but sadly we can't control it. If, from the beginning, it was just "invites", alot of the good members wouldn't be here. Anyways, you probably won't see me on as much because this crap is simply childish and I'm not getting dragged into it.

[layoutcentral]

I was pretty much living on this forum, but I got grounded and it helped me realize I have friends and a life. Dont get me wrong i love this forum and alot of the people on it but I think its time for me to take a hiatus...

[thplooy]

Hmmm that would be cool, I don't know if it can be made that specific but perhaps the Town Hall as a whole could be removed from the new posts.......

It should be totally removed from the forum, it attracts the wrong kind of members.
But that's not going to happen, the number of postings and the number of members is more important then a quality forum.

[thplooy]

This is all my opinion as I have just been looking from the outside in and havent said anything but how many more threads are going to be made over such CHILDISH stuff......PLEASE



Here's something to think about.

Forum moderators can make or break a forum..

[Connections]

Mark this thread down as one of the childish ones the poster himself talks about....I cant believe this.

This forum is what YOU as an individual make it. Connections you had an issue with some PP sub that YOU didnt cancel. Any actual business person knows that you CANCEL unwanted subs....Its daily business. You got pissed and just blew a gasket and now here you are again just trying to stir the pot even more. Its because of threads right here that many of you are complaining to begin with.

Your selling your domains and your sites in your temper pouting and you start threads like this just to piss certain people off.....Who gives a crap of how Ashbo gets traffic....She Freaking gets it and thats all that matters. It doesnt matter if it appeals to martians or 12 yr old girls here on earth.

What the issue with if its SEO or direct type in ?? NOTHING

Traffic is Traffic and thats all that matters.....You think MySpace itself gets massive SEO traffic....Hell no people know it and they type it in.

Connections if you plan on leaving just do it cause it seems to me all your doing is trying to cause issue with different members within the forum..

Like I said this place is what YOU make it. If you let stupid stuff get to ya then YOU yourself have issues.

This is all my opinion as I have just been looking from the outside in and havent said anything but how many more threads are going to be made over such CHILDISH stuff......PLEASE


um go and look how that ashbo thing even started,

It started because the original poster stated how the posters sites suck, and how her cousin was going to destroy them.

I stated her cousin gets a lot of direct traffic the truth, I wa snot trying to be rude at all but people took it the wrong way for some reason and totally went over board.

Then the insults started flying in from all directions, people saying her sites a million times better then any one else in this niche, wow thats not pissed me off.

I don't have time for this myeeos thing any more what are you on about "piss certain people off."

I think alot of mods on here act in very un professional fashion.

I think a lot of people need to wake up their is problems with this forum and its quite obvious, I am trying to help out before its too late, before this place turns into the new kville/SNF which is a possibility.

I am not trying to make a divide in this forum, I am not trying to become a moderator I am trying to help this forum out to get it back to the once respectable place it was, I was just point out some advice you don't have to get all defensive and start telling me to move to a different forum.

I was merely only trying to give some advice to whatever life but they quite obviously don't want to listen, thats cool I just didn't want to cop a mouth full.


like I said i might make a few posts here every ones in a while...

Also I think I need to say sorry to people, I have received a few pms form people who started these little fights and yeah I do think they were a bit childish but I do think their are problems with this forum and I was only trying to help and people like you PGZ dont seem to want to listen.

[George]

Just make it invite only.

Then someone send me an invite and I'll be back :)

[omen]

Invite would be good, but you'd still get invites handed out to "friends" left right and center!

[PGZ]

Just so EVERYONE knows.....Im not a MOD here and my views are mine and not that of this forum or the Admin of this forum so please stop associating me as I am a MOD cause I am not.

I said my words and they are MY thoughts and no one elses. If your going to leave connections then just do it like you said you were. Whats so hard about that ??

No sense in causing craziness if your leaving anyways correct ??

[PGZ]

Here's something to think about.

Forum moderators can make or break a forum..

Again Im not a MOD...........

[Cyclops]

There are two areas to MySpacePros .... the business arena and the general discussion or play arena.
Granted it did start out as an all business forum, but due to pressure from you the members, more forums were added where people could socialise and play around a bit. All work and no play was making MySpacePros a pretty staid place.

As MySpacePros became even more popular more members arrived, most came to do business but also participated in the general discussion Forums. More people arrived and found that they had something in common with the business people already here ... the common ground of course was Myspace. A lot in this last group don't do any business at all but do like to talk about what they have in common with the other members, Myspace etc. Of course as people got to know each other they started to discuss other things ..... all very natural as the growth kicks in.

Because of the diverse nature and age of the members fires are going to get started, you won't find a Forum as large as MySpacePros where there aren't fires.
I don't think MySpacePros has changed for the worse at all, I don't frequent the areas where the majority of the problems arise, like the town hall so from the point of what I am seeing it's all been pretty good.
I know some of the other Mods spend a lot of time in the areas I don't so I figure there is no need for me to go poking around (by the way there are 6 Mods, not 4 as someone mentioned earlier).
It's not an easy job being a Mod on any Forum, I currently own 5 Forums so I know a bit about running them and the issues that arise.
The Mods are the first to cop the abuse if they don't act, first to cop abuse if they do act, they spend a lot of time on the Forum when they could be doing something to benefit themselves elsewhere. There is no pay, perks or privileges involved .... they do it because they are trying to make a place they love to hangout at a better place for everyone, I'm asking for you to give them a break .... theres no need to start abusing them.

Every Forum has it's ups and downs, fires get started, get put out but mostly just die a natural death.
Sure some members like to play games and cause trouble, they start arguments for little or no reason, there are others who jump on the bandwagon every time ... I don't need to name them, just look at the threads where there are issues, 90% of the time you will see the same names popping up, you all know who they are.

I could ban these people but that won't accomplish much, we are here to try and monitor the Forum, we are not the internet Police, banning is a last resort but that said there are four people very very close to stretching my patience at the moment.

I'm just asking you to think to think it through before you push the reply button, don't make stupid comments in someones sales thread .... is it worth bringing this up .... is it worth replying to this person because I know they are not going to take any notice .... I just want you to think about what you are about to say, after all it's your Forum and your the one who can make it or break it with what you say.

Thanks for reading this and understanding .....
Cyclops.

[Connections]

Just so EVERYONE knows.....Im not a MOD here and my views are mine and not that of this forum or the Admin of this forum so please stop associating me as I am a MOD cause I am not.

I said my words and they are MY thoughts and no one elses. If your going to leave connections then just do it like you said you were. Whats so hard about that ??

No sense in causing craziness if your leaving anyways correct ??


can you please show me where I said I am gong to leave?

I said I will stop posting here and maby come back once every so often to see how this forum is going.

thanks

[RKGraphics]

Can users have the option to filter out post from forums when using the "New Posts" button?

I only come here to learn about Myspace Marketing and support for Greg's scripts. I don't really care about the "Town Hall" forums, though I do realize that some people might care about those forums. That is why I think it would be good for users to have an option on which Posts they want to see when clicking the "New Posts" button.

this is actually a really great idea. not too many people care about what new chit chat post is in the town hall. and quickbeam is one of the really helpful people on here!! im sure he doesnt have many chit chat threads to sort through, but for those others who are really helpful, and do like to post townhall threads, this would eliminate going through all the random townhall threads.

great idea.

[RKGraphics]

I know some of the other Mods spend a lot of time in the areas I don't so I figure there is no need for me to go poking around (by the way there are 6 Mods, not 4 as someone mentioned earlier).

oh my bad. i didnt count the admins as mods.

[AnnieBui]

Yeah, I don't really care for the socializing that goes on.

I wish there were more banner contests and wish people looked for more unique layouts, banners, etc instead of buying mass packs of them ..

[minnseoelite]

It should be totally removed from the forum, it attracts the wrong kind of members.
But that's not going to happen, the number of postings and the number of members is more important then a quality forum.

What kind of wrong members would that be, just cause people like to have fun and relax a little does not make them bad members. People came to love msp because of the fact that we could conduct business here and kick back. The only issue I see is that alot of the bs posts and threads have started to spill out into other parts or that people spend to much time in the Town Hall forums because of the fact that those posts continually show up in the new threads at the top and attract attention.

IMO if you remove the Town Hall threads from showing up all together in the new posts then people will spend less time there and more time conducting business and making more quality posts.....just my 1 1/2 cents :P

[Kasami2k4]

I posted in town hall and i didnt go to the top a few days ago :\ I PMed Greg and asked if the forum was broken. He said nope, they just don't show up in top.

I like the rep feautre, but it does get abused and therefore pisses everyone off. But what people need to understand, is that it DOESNT determine whether you're a bad person etc.. It just determines whether you're an asshole or not.

[minnseoelite]

The Mods are the first to cop the abuse if they don't act, first to cop abuse if they do act, they spend a lot of time on the Forum when they could be doing something to benefit themselves elsewhere. There is no pay, perks or privileges involved .... they do it because they are trying to make a place they love to hangout at a better place for everyone, I'm asking for you to give them a break .... theres no need to start abusing them.


Could not have said it better. People should take into account that us Mods/Admin give up hours and hours a day to come here and try to make MyspacePros enjoyable for all its members but when a forum gets to reach a certain size there is no way to keep everyone happy all the time. We spend alot of time behind the scenes discussing member concerns and ways to find a middle ground that a majority of the members can be happy with sometimes we hit the mark and sometimes we miss completely.

[Kasami2k4]

Can get more mods, you know.. ;p Ones that would try to make peace and harmony via PM etc..

[RKGraphics]

if you post directly in the town hall, it shows up. if you post in the sub forums, it doesn't. unless its changed in the last 48 hours.

edit//i guess some sub forums show up. but not all, or not most of them

[thplooy]

What kind of wrong members would that be, just cause people like to have fun and relax a little does not make them bad members.


It started with a political section, Greg started it, because he didn't like DP, and he still wanted to discuss politics.
A number of people warned him that such a section would affect the quality of this forum. And we were right, the forum went downhill since then.

[minnseoelite]

Can get more mods, you know.. ;p Ones that would try to make peace and harmony via PM etc..


We do, we just don't go announcing it on the forum.

[Kasami2k4]

You guys can blame threads like this, full of hypocrisy and created ONLY for the intent to start Drama.

[George]

It started with a political section, Greg started it, because he didn't like DP, and he still wanted to discuss politics.
A number of people warned him that such a section would affect the quality of this forum. And we were right, the forum went downhill since then.
I don't post in the political section on DP anymore and don't remember ever doing it here either. They are generally a bad idea for any forum not focused on debating already.