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Storm
October 12th, 2006, 06:42 AM
Are we at risk if myspace is in the domain name? there are many many thousand of domains which have myspace .. what do you think ? also is it better to have a domain which do not have myspace for myspace sites ? I think most people put myspace in the domain only for SEO.

Connections
October 12th, 2006, 06:49 AM
yeah its good untill your site gets big then myspace sue's you and then your goneeeee

Scilynt
October 12th, 2006, 06:56 AM
When it comes down to it, you probably wouldn't have to really worry about it unless your site got huge, at which point you would be making enough cash to deal with any legal issues/deals that you may have to. Myspace doesn't seem too bad about really going after people. They have sent cease and desist letters but they kind of have to to keep their trademark but may not actually follow through with anything. But if they don't enforce it at all they could lose their claim to the trademark.

So you shouldn't really probably worry about it unless your site starts really brining in traffic but if you have a choice the should consider alternatives. Myspace in the domain may help with SEO but "layouts" would be just as nice ;).

All that being said, back when I started my MSRS I had it on a myspace domain but decided to move it off to another one just to be safe and avoide any problems. I do have some turnkey scripts with myspace in the domain though lol.

miller2348
October 12th, 2006, 09:49 AM
There are a couple other reason why I'd not put it in.

1) legal issues as they have the right and obligation to go after the name.
2) Limit your site to only myspace

I'd worry more about #2, why limit yourself. :)

DavidR
October 12th, 2006, 10:32 AM
There are a couple other reason why I'd not put it in.

1) legal issues as they have the right and obligation to go after the name.
2) Limit your site to only myspace

I'd worry more about #2, why limit yourself. :)

What if you said your website was called 'myspacemania.com' you could say the whole name is one word 'myspacemania' how can you claim ownership of letters within a word?

That's like a company called 'space', suing myspace.

Selena
October 12th, 2006, 01:36 PM
What david said sort of makes sense. The domain myspacemania could be interpreted, though i doubt many would interpret it this way, as My Space Mania, which could be a kids site about space or something. idk. lol

I'd try to avoid it, even though it does help with seo, but even if you just put yourspacelayouts or yourlayoutspace or something, it still works out somewhat.

Drew
October 12th, 2006, 02:36 PM
Two potential threats:

1. MySpace takes you to WIPO, WIPO will more than likely hand the domain to MySpace.

2. It's not whether you win or lose the court case if you go to court, it's can you afford it, can you afford the money to fight MySpace in court? They could easily make the cost of defending yourself run into the millions of dollars, and if you don't defend the lawsuit you get a default judgement with a huge bill from their legal fee's and penalties.

Having said that I do have to admit, 2 of the 4 domain names I have for resource sites contain the word "myspace".

Connections
October 12th, 2006, 08:49 PM
What if you said your website was called 'myspacemania.com' you could say the whole name is one word 'myspacemania' how can you claim ownership of letters within a word?

That's like a company called 'space', suing myspace.


They can sue you becuase its a tradmark and becuase your site is in the same market as what they do.

Any one with any basic law knoledge at all or any one who has been in like 10 classes of marketing law like I have knows...

That's if the business is operating in the same field as you with your trademark in the domain, they have a strong case, as you are trying to profit off their trademark.

Look how much money newscorp interactive has, they love sueing people I recently did some case studies on news corp and they love sueing any one in any country.

Give it a few months and I hope they wipe out eveyr one with myspace in their domains,

Its different if you have like a wine and food website, your last name is myspace and you have been trading in the industry under that name for 20 years with a trademark, then myspace has no chance at all of taking you down, but sure they can still sue you as they have money and lots of it :D

Come on their big teams of lawyers need something to do :D

DavidR
October 13th, 2006, 05:42 AM
After some consideration, I have bought a new domain. Infact I'm happier with this new one than I was with my 'myspace' one. It has inspired me to create a better looking logo for starters! Plus, it's nice to be safe just incase MySpace goes on a war path against everyone. Also as someone mentioned, it doesn't limit me to MySpace if something equally as big ever appears.

Fishfinger
October 13th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Give it a few months and I hope they wipe out eveyr one with myspace in their domains

Come on their big teams of lawyers need something to do :D

Why would you wish other people get "wiped out? for your own advancement?

Connections
October 13th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Why would you wish other people get "wiped out? for your own advancement?


because they are just trying to profit off the myspace trademark, they know its not alloud yet they still go ahead and buy the domain.

But I dont care if people start up myspace sites with myspace in the domain,
its just asking for trouble. do what every you want I couldnt care less.

Fishfinger
October 13th, 2006, 07:07 AM
I wasn't asking for your approval, just curious to know why you wanted others wiped out.

avi8r
October 13th, 2006, 07:48 AM
because they are just trying to profit off the myspace trademark, they know its not alloud yet they still go ahead and buy the domain.

But I dont care if people start up myspace sites with myspace in the domain,
its just asking for trouble. do what every you want I couldnt care less.

What exactly do you think we're doing having a "MySpace Resource site?" We're captilizing on the fact that myspace exists How does having the myspace trademark in the site name help/hurt that. Personally I don't think that it does except to make it a little easier for people to properly associate that we are selling stuff for their myspace profile. But when push comes to shove, content is king and "borrowing" trademark will not help your marketing efforts one lick. My advice is not to sweat it.

Connections
October 13th, 2006, 08:10 AM
I wasn't asking for your approval, just curious to know why you wanted others wiped out.


because its aggainst the law to copy some ones trade mark, hence using "myspace" in the domain is copying a TRADEMARK.

Bo what you want I don't care, I am working for newscorp interactive so why would I care.

And did I ever say myspace resource sites should be totally wiped out!!! no I said the domains names should, every one should abide by the rules and not use trade marks people feel that they have to be different and do things aggaints the law and use "myspace" in their domain's these are the people who need to be shut down.

This is a stupid argument to even be getting into,

If you own a domain with "myspace" in it good luck to you, just wait for newscorp interactive to get bored and look for some one to sue to add to their bank account, they will take down mothers, grandparents and oh yes 14 year old kids aswell!!!!!!!


kthxbi.

Connections
October 13th, 2006, 08:13 AM
What exactly do you think we're doing having a "MySpace Resource site?" We're captilizing on the fact that myspace exists How does having the myspace trademark in the site name help/hurt that. Personally I don't think that it does except to make it a little easier for people to properly associate that we are selling stuff for their myspace profile. But when push comes to shove, content is king and "borrowing" trademark will not help your marketing efforts one lick. My advice is not to sweat it.


I am talking in terms of what the court case would involve, if myspace decided to take you to court for having "myspace" in your domain name,

they would sue you for using the trademark and for using the trade mark in the same market as what their website is in, they would take you for damages and also probly take your revenue.

DavidR
October 13th, 2006, 08:18 AM
And did I ever say myspace resource sites should be totally wiped out!!! no I said the domains names should.

Surely if for example myspacesupport.com lost it's domain, it would ineffect lose all it's traffic and all it's links it has built up on profiles and other sites would be dead. Although you may not wish for the result to be that harsh, the result of what you do want would be sites that use MySpace in their name would be eliminated.

I think it is risky, hence why I changed (I have the advantage of not having a site up yet), now I have no risk. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy a myspace domain.

Connections
October 13th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Surely if for example myspacesupport.com lost it's domain, it would ineffect lose all it's traffic and all it's links it has built up on profiles and other sites would be dead. Although you may not wish for the result to be that harsh, the result of what you do want would be sites that use MySpace in their name would be eliminated.

I think it is risky, hence why I changed (I have the advantage of not having a site up yet), now I have no risk. I wouldn't advise anyone to buy a myspace domain.


man myspace support has been taken to court a few times,

the owner has got out of the business and sold off the site becuase he knows the problems with the domain.

look at www.myspacecity.com this was taken down ages ago!

I am not trying to be harsh here to people with "myspace" in their domain,

I am just giving you a freindly warning before you loose it all when myspace decides to take action.

what are we on this forum for?

to give "friendly" advice to other myspace resource webmasters!

thanks.

Fishfinger
October 13th, 2006, 08:39 AM
Give it a few months and I hope they wipe out eveyr one with myspace in their domains,

Come on their big teams of lawyers need something to do :D

My bad connections, I could have swore you said "...I hope they wipe out everyone"....

I wouldn't recommend using myspace in the name either tho, unless it gets a significant amount of type-in traffic then, just maybe, it could be worth it.

DavidR
October 13th, 2006, 08:51 AM
man myspace support has been taken to court a few times,

the owner has got out of the business and sold off the site becuase he knows the problems with the domain.

How does myspacesupport still exist then? I thought the same guy still owned it?

Connections
October 13th, 2006, 09:59 PM
How does myspacesupport still exist then? I thought the same guy still owned it?


as far as I know the owner of myspacesupport recently sold the site for 100k to tower codes,

my guess is tower codes is "trying" to make some massive myspace resource site group in a attempt to wipe out some of the competition.

DavidR
October 14th, 2006, 01:42 AM
as far as I know the owner of myspacesupport recently sold the site for 100k to tower codes,

my guess is tower codes is "trying" to make some massive myspace resource site group in a attempt to wipe out some of the competition.

I am so confused lol, I guess it isn't important, but I thought the guy who runs MySpaceSupport, used to own towers codes and sold it, he now runs MySpaceSupport and hasn't sold it, since running YPN (that's what I gathered from another topic on this board)

Fishfinger
October 14th, 2006, 03:16 AM
DavidR is right, this guy http://ecaandrew.com/ still owns myspacesupport.com and sold towercodes.....check out sitepoint.

Connections
October 14th, 2006, 04:40 AM
yeah I must have been mixing the two up.

thanks for the link....