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Connections
October 12th, 2006, 01:04 AM
I was thinking today, what if myspace decided to implement its own myspace generators within the users account's?

Some kind of thing which youtube has where users can choose their own colours, table sizes, backgrounds, texts and many other things.

Do you think this could happen over time????

or is this something that will never happen???

thanks.

fryman
October 12th, 2006, 01:17 AM
That is something I worry about every day...

My myspace related sites are bringing in 95% of my income right now. I am looking like crazy for something else to diversify but haven't found anything yet.

Scilynt
October 12th, 2006, 02:36 AM
Myspace IS working on their own profile eidtor. No idea how detialed it would be or how many features it will have...or if it will have any content. But odds are, there will always be a need for custom content and since myspace can't host it all, there will always be a need for at the very least, myspace images/tools/generators and such. I'm sure there will also be the ability to "code" your own layout as well so I don't think layouts are going anywhere either.

Unless whatever it was they are working on really really kicks **** they would be silly to block everything or it would piss off a lot of users. They know that being too secure and internal can kill a networks so hopefully won't make that mistake.

I don't worry so much about an internal layout thing as I do advertising issues. Like if google decided they would reject all myspace traffic clicks or something silly like that. But considering they have the advertising agreement with myspace, who knows what might happen or how strict they could get.

mcfox
October 12th, 2006, 02:58 AM
I think that it would be a mistake on the part of MySpace to switch to that type of model. To my mind the way it is now is much to do with the success of the site because it allows users complete flexibility for their profiles.

Having said that, it wouldn't be the first internet giant with a hugely successful business model to f*** it up because they were under the impression it would still be as successful if they ignored the basic wants of the user base {altavista; *cough seochat}

DavidR
October 12th, 2006, 03:00 AM
Myspace IS working on their own profile eidtor.

As I am yet to launch my website I don't know for sure, but I have always thought (as you said, content) pre-made layouts were a far greater attraction in comparison to just layout generators. So I wouldn't feel that a Myspace own one was a big threat, unless ofcourse they totally changed the profiles and only made it possible to edit the profiles via their own generator, making pre-made layouts redundant.

I have read before about MySpace traffic, I don't fully understand why it's trash traffic? Surely all traffic has an advertsing market, so shouldn't all traffic be worthy traffic. What makes a person surifing to your page from MySpace the wrong kind of traffic? (I understand MySpace bulletins can be seen as spam, but say someone surfing simply from a link on a profile, surely that's not questionable traffic).

Drew
October 12th, 2006, 04:31 AM
MySpace is but one source of traffic for my resource sites, yes it would dent my income but I doubt they would provide everything we currently do.

DavidR: Because in the past there has not been a good ROI for advertisers, this is changing I believe.

chihpih
October 14th, 2006, 11:11 AM
That is something I worry about every day...

My myspace related sites are bringing in 95% of my income right now. I am looking like crazy for something else to diversify but haven't found anything yet.

smart man to diversify! ;)

PGZ
October 14th, 2006, 11:43 AM
MySpace can do whatever they want.....A privately owned Resource site will always find and do something better.

PGZ

Sergio
October 14th, 2006, 02:03 PM
I kind of feel safe on this one, my site provides DIV layouts, I doubt MySpace will make DIV's.

fryman
October 14th, 2006, 02:06 PM
MySpace can do whatever they want.....A privately owned Resource site will always find and do something better.

Sure... but I can bet that if they do something your traffic will drop like a rock, no matter how much content you have

PGZ
October 14th, 2006, 05:39 PM
Sure... but I can bet that if they do something your traffic will drop like a rock, no matter how much content you have

Tags would still be all over MySpace and advertising would still continue. I dont see that much of a dent fryman.

PGZ

Fishfinger
October 14th, 2006, 06:06 PM
I am more worried about the virtual pets, countdowns and ever more sophisticated flash toys. There is a real danger we will be left behind.....

LinkPromo
October 14th, 2006, 06:54 PM
Thats why we should all be freelancing crazy ideas flash widgets.

Connections
October 14th, 2006, 07:06 PM
I kind of feel safe on this one, my site provides DIV layouts, I doubt MySpace will make DIV's.


myspace wouldnt use divs and their too trcikey for users to implement the code..

even with the div generators the end user still has to do a lot of custom work to get them looking right,

your profile can be screwd in seconds with one mistake...

myspace wouldnt risk pissing heaps and heaps of people off by using DIV's

fryman
October 14th, 2006, 08:30 PM
div layouts? Who uses that? I do hundreds of requests per day and I have only seen like 10 div profiles

Scilynt
October 15th, 2006, 05:38 AM
I've seen some cool div layouts and although they usually look very cool they leave a lot to be desired as far as communication goes. Seems people go through a ton of work just to create a "site" that doesn't look like a myspace profile and doesn't have any of the communication features (comments and such). Why not just make a website lol.

DavidR
October 15th, 2006, 06:05 AM
I've seen some cool div layouts and although they usually look very cool they leave a lot to be desired as far as communication goes.

That's just the basic div profiles. My profile integrates comments and I have seen one that integrates virtually everything about a normal profile into it's div profile. Obviously these kind of layouts aren't downloaded they are personally made, but it is possible.

The time and effort it takes to make them means I doubt many sites will offer them (at such quality) for free, you may aswell become a web site designer and make websites if you're going to make a database of quality free div layouts!

Although you can have all the features a normal profile has, you need to be skilled in HTML to be able to maintain it, which defeats the point of ready made layouts for everyone. I have seen a site that offers good div layouts though, very good ones, wish I still had the domain.

Seems people go through a ton of work just to create a "site" that doesn't look like a myspace profile and doesn't have any of the communication features (comments and such). Why not just make a website lol.

This is my profile (yeh, I haven't wirtten any blogs, it's pretty much empty), below what you see is the comment section that matches the page design. I can't imagine making them avaliable on my website.

I guess the reason people don't just make a blog website instead, is because they want to be part of MySpace as in the network of millions of people.

http://imagecloset.net/img2/upload/ffa35fcc.jpg

(No point linking you to my profile if you're thinking I'm not posting the URL to be secretive... it's only visible to people on my friends list)

Scilynt
October 15th, 2006, 06:25 AM
What I mean though, is many of the div profiles I have seen have nothing more than info about the owner, if even that. More of a static site without any of the communication features. Most don't have comments and most don't have "friends" listed. Some don't even have "add" links.

I'm not saying div overlays can't be very cool and look great while still being usable...just saying most of the ones I have seen end up very limited to what they do/offer the visitor/their friends. Yours looks great and still looks like it is usable to actually keep in touch with your friends...with style ;). But most I have seen, don't.

A resource site with premade, cool looking divs would probably do very well. Of course if myspace changes one little thing it would kill their profile, as you mentioned. So any site offering div layouts would probably also need a hefty support forum lol.

Ted Hat
October 15th, 2006, 02:21 PM
I was thinking today, what if myspace decided to implement its own myspace generators within the users account's?

Some kind of thing which youtube has where users can choose their own colours, table sizes, backgrounds, texts and many other things.

Do you think this could happen over time????

or is this something that will never happen???

thanks.

That will NEVER happen

I envision that in 5 years there will still be MSRS

Myspace's own layouts will suck. People wont use them except for noobs.

Sergio
October 15th, 2006, 06:43 PM
What I mean though, is many of the div profiles I have seen have nothing more than info about the owner, if even that. More of a static site without any of the communication features. Most don't have comments and most don't have "friends" listed. Some don't even have "add" links.

I'm not saying div overlays can't be very cool and look great while still being usable...just saying most of the ones I have seen end up very limited to what they do/offer the visitor/their friends. Yours looks great and still looks like it is usable to actually keep in touch with your friends...with style ;). But most I have seen, don't.

A resource site with premade, cool looking divs would probably do very well. Of course if myspace changes one little thing it would kill their profile, as you mentioned. So any site offering div layouts would probably also need a hefty support forum lol.
Mine has a forum and I help out.

PGZ
October 15th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Mine has a forum and I help out.

We also have a forum.....Its right here.

I have a link on all my sites pointing here. I think most of the other Mods do also but Im not sure about the member side of it.

PGZ