$1,000 Layout Submission contest for LayoutsNetwork.com

[Assailant]

Thats right, I am offering $1,000 to the winner of this contest.

I have set aside $4,000 for marketing layoutsnetwork.com and I think this is the perfect way to beef it up for when I go public.

Heres how it works.

The top ten system on the right column of layouts network.com records weekly unique views. Meaning every monday it resets. As you can see the top ten views were reset.

The layout with the most views from now until monday will receieve $1,000 USD via either paypal or check.

You can submit as many layouts as you wish be default you are allowed 10 submissions, if you add a link back to layoutsnetwork however your submission limit will be increased to 100.

If you add this forum thread to your signature, with anchor text a description of this contest, your submission will be boosted +50. for a maximum of 150 layout submissions. Just PM me for the extended limit with your username so I know what account to modify.

You can get visitors to your layout however you wish word of mouth, from your site, etc so long as its not spamming or anything breaking the rules.

Dont bother cheating, it will get you disqualified and permanently suspended from layouts network..i know all the tricks, invisible iframe etc etc.

The Layouts you submit MUST BELONG TO YOU. meaning you paid for it custom or you paid for it as part of a package.

The server runs off EST so contest ends sunday at midnight which will technically be monday.

Payment will either be made via paypal or check...if you cant accept either of these then sorry, nothing I can do.

Edit** only members of this forum are eligible to win and must be a member for at least a week. This is prevent anyone from accusing me of setting this up etc.

Any new members who want to participate in this contest will need to get clearance from a mod or greg himself.

[markp9114]

the layout with the most views? does it count each unique visitor click or just clicks total

[Assailant]

every view is unique...and I can spot proxy cheaters. every layout in the top 10 at all times will be reviewed for potential fraud.

[zooped]

are you reseting the views?

[fapsian]

Be nice if you can add a Misc. or Other category.

[Assailant]

views will stay as they are.

other category added...if anyone has any category suggestions im all ears.

[omen]

Retro, Emo, Cartoon, Music

[Assailant]

I have EMO and music already. isnt retro the same as emo and isnt cartoon the same as anime?

[Connections]

count me in for sure dude...maby a better structure for the prizes would be 700 for first 200 for second 100 for 3rd...

just a idea...its allways good to give people who dont make the top spot a chance at the prizes...

good luck with it any way

[Assailant]

goodluck.

If i did multiple winners it would be $333 for 3 winners. I already announced what the prize is so I dont want to go back on my word anyway. I think $1,000 top prize is a good motivator.

[theroof]

is there any way to edit layouts that ive submitted or do i have just delete them?

[Assailant]

delete and re submit...right now theres a bug which fapsian brought to my attention, if your limit is reached it wont delete the layouts...ill have my programmer correct that tomorrow..so if anyone needs something deleted and cant just shoot me a pm

[theroof]

ok thats what ive been doing. thanks

[Assailant]

yeah you re-submitted that 300 layout like 3 times already lol

[hotmonkee]

yeah you re-submitted that 300 layout like 3 times already lol

people are submitting 300 layouts. lol. fine. ive just been creating my own and submitting, like a whole 2 of them. LOL

what if the same people have the same packs that they purchased and try to submit the same layouts...would it just be like first come first serve....etc?

[minnseoelite]

people are submitting 300 layouts.

lol i think he met 1 layout for that new movie 300

[hotmonkee]

lol...rofl. im sick ok. my brain has been destroyed. sorry!

[theroof]

yeah you re-submitted that 300 layout like 3 times already lol

i know, sorry lol. i saw something wrong and i had fix it.

[wakeboardr99]

done and done, : naked dolls and stomach in sexy category : do i get 50 for both?

[Panic!]

I'm in will post some later :]

[Jordan]

Oh I'm up for this. So we get to submit 10 layouts and if we want more submissions we have to do those things you mentioned right?

I'll submit a few from my packs.

EDIT:// I submitted one layout but I put 'Layouts Network' instead of 'Myspace Layouts Network' as the anchor text... can you edit that? =/

[rize]

kk il join.. ;)

[rize]

do i have to wait for my lay to be activated?

[zooped]

I have 3 resource sites is it ok if i have 3 different accounts?

[kenzie]

I entered a few layouts. :)

[xo.Saz.xo]

Woah, $1,000! I'm so not gonna win, i Bet it's gonna be Kenzie lmao she's always number 1 on the panel. I submitted lays up to my 10 Limit, i'll place the link on my site soon.

[omen]

The stats don't seem to move for me? It's been the same for days.

[Assailant]

yes, all layouts need to be activated by me.

if you have more than one site yes you can open an account for each one of them.

Omen, the stats are working just fine..they go by unique views...so if you're refreshing, the views count isnt going to go up.

On the top ten, it lists the total views for the week...on the layout info page, that lists the total views...we are paying attention to the views for this week only

[Assailant]

By the way, ive gotten PM'd about this.

What page counts towards the views? well the answer is the layout info page..on the info page itself will list TOTAL views...NOT this weeks views. But then again if you're submitting this week then total views will be weekly views.

And YES you can promote your layout info URL however you see fit so long as its not spamming or anything unethical.

[zooped]

15 layouts and more to come - I wish I had nicer layouts DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[vcff]

Count me in Im down...

None of you stand a chance:)

LOL

Im already counting the one dolla bills

[vcff]

How do I add 1000's of layouts so none of these chumps stand a chance?

[kenzie]

The Layouts you submit MUST BELONG TO YOU. meaning you paid for it custom or you paid for it as part of a package.
The layout I entered was purchased here (by me of course). Is that ok to use?

[Assailant]

vcff, the limts are explained in the first post, its not possible to upload 1000, max is 150 per account....if you own 10 websites then its possible for 1000.

yes kenzie, if you have permission to use it on your site, you can submit to layoutsnetwork.

[Precious]

I don't think its fair to enter other people's layouts, rather you bought them or not. Unless you plan on sharing the prize money with them. Considering it's actually THEIR designs getting the attention, not your submission skills.

If the rules are changed to be fair to that, i'll enter.

[Assailant]

Precious, I understand what you're saying but...this isnt a best looking layout contest. From my standpoint its a marketing investment to give the site a boost and have everyone drive traffic to my site.

If a layout is sold, the creator of that layout is allowing the useage of that layout on that buyers site. Granted if that layout is submitted to Layouts Network, it is not technically being used on Layouts Network because I am not hosting any of the images, its just a portal/window.

If I didnt think it was fair, I wouldn't make it that way. If the majority of people thinks this is wrong however ill consider changing.

[Precious]

It doesn't matter if your hosting the images, your still displaying other people's work without direct permission. Now, if the user asks the person they baught it from first if they can try winning $1,000, and the creator says yes - then by all means. In the meantime, I think it's very unfair. Because in the meantime, YOU (who did not purchase the layouts) is getting a profit from the layouts by, as you say, "Marketing".

I, for one, being a designer - Would not appreciate someone else winning $1,000 off a design I made. Nor would I feel comfortable winning $1,000 one someone else's design, knowing that I was not the one who spent hours making it.

[Assailant]

When someone purchases a layout they are purchasing rights to that layout. They do not need the originators permission to use the layout for their personal gain. Thats like buying a car and asking the person you bought it from permission every time you drive it. Thats ridiculous.

[vcff]

Does everyone on here whine ?

This isnt your contest its his.....

[Precious]

When someone purchases a layout they are purchasing rights to that layout. They do not need the originators permission to use the layout for their personal gain. Thats like buying a car and asking the person you bought it from permission every time you drive it. Thats ridiculous.

No, we give them permission to put it on THEIR site(s), not someone else's. That is completely different from you "buying a car" example. Please do not tell me what kind of permission I am giving with my layouts. Unless someone specifically states they can do WHATEVER they want, or ateast "put this on other peoples sites", I don't think they are okay with it.

[Precious]

Does everyone on here whine ?

This isnt your contest its his.....
It does not matter. He is allowing other people to submit layouts they did NOT make. Which means, I have a right to stand up and say something because i have sold almost 500 layouts on here so there is a chance that mine may be put on there - in which im not happy with.

[Assailant]

Did google get your permission to include your site in its SERP's? Perhaps some of your graphic work is listed in google images, did google get your permission from that? No they dont need to, because it benefits you and helps people find your work. This is the same thing on a smaller level. I have a LOT of experience with legal issues and this violates nothing.

[Precious]

Did google get your permission to include your site in its SERP's? Perhaps some of your graphic work is listed in google images, did google get your permission from that? No they dont need to, because it benefits you and helps people find your work. This is the same thing on a smaller level. I have a LOT of experience with legal issues and this violates nothing.
How does it benefit me if other people are putting THEIR name on it? Huh? It don't. I hope the users here have enough common sense to only submit their own layouts. Anyone who bought from me, I am not giving permission to submit to this site - as I only give permission to sites YOU OWN.

[vcff]

Unless you have some kind of contract with the people you sold designs to good luck enforcing that one:)

[Assailant]

technically...I am not putting my name on any of the layouts....the only thing I am adding is a right corner tag which explains where that user found the layout. TECHNICALLY thats editting the users profile...not your layout.

[Precious]

technically...I am not putting my name on any of the layouts....the only thing I am adding is a right corner tag which explains where that user found the layout. TECHNICALLY thats editting the users profile...not your layout.
I wasn't refering to you. I was refering to whoever submits the layout. They are going to put it under their name/site, claiming as though they made it. In which, they didn't - the orignal designer did. (This is only in reference to those who submit layouts not made by them)

[kenzie]

As a designer, I don't mind if someone submits a layout I made. I would actually be glad that people liked the layout enough that it won (if it did). :biggrin:

There is a "delete" button for the layouts if the designer has a problem with the layouts being used. ;)

[Assailant]

Thats the same as saying by them using the layouts they purchased from you on their site, they are claiming to have made them. Nowhere does it imply that they made the layout...thats the reason why I allow the users to put in their domain name, to show where the layout can be found.

If you have a problem with anyone potentially violating your regulations, theres a contact form on the site you can use to report any such violations. I am a fair person and I try to be as fair as possible, but I cant enforce everyones wishes.

You should be more worried about the sites that blatantly steal layouts, download the graphics and put their name on it. Those are the people you should be going after.

[wicked9690]

I added a couple of ours :shifty: Good luck to ya all :whackit:

A quote category would be good to add maybe.

[goki]

It does not matter. He is allowing other people to submit layouts they did NOT make. Which means, I have a right to stand up and say something because i have sold almost 500 layouts on here so there is a chance that mine may be put on there - in which im not happy with.

I agree with you precious, but unless you stipulate the conditions when you sell your layouts, there's not much you can do.

If you really want to make a point then don't sell to those who have bought from others and posted on layoutsnetwork and similar sites. And tell all the designers to do the same.

I will not respond to any further messages on this thread. I don't feel like attacking anyone or being attacked. More happy good for me and everyone else.

[Precious]

If you really want to make a point then don't sell to those who have bought from others and posted on layoutsnetwork and similar sites. And tell all the designers to do the same. Exactly what i'm doing. I've been keeping a close eye on those submitted thus far.

Kenzie, Your telling me that you would not feel a little cheated if you sold someone a layout for $1, and they turned around and made $1,000 off it? Well then, good for you.

[minnseoelite]

I would also have to agree with Angiie on this. Most sellers do state that you only have permission to use the layouts on sites that you own and whether the actual images are hosted on your site or not the layout is still being offered on your site. But overall I think this should be left to the choice of each designer.

[vcff]

Whats funny is If I paid for them why would the designer care... "I PAID FOR THEM" ...

This is just Silly...

Im going to trounce you all:)

[SlickEddie]

I agree. Designers should throw up a Terms of Use for their buyers.

[Assailant]

Exactly what i'm doing. I've been keeping a close eye on those submitted thus far.

Kenzie, Your telling me that you would not feel a little cheated if you sold someone a layout for $1, and they turned around and made $1,000 off it? Well then, good for you.

so you're saying you dont want people to profit off the layouts you sell them? I have news for you..people buy layouts from you or anyone else with the sole intention of profiting from them. I once sold a site 5 years ago for $100. That site now makes over $1,000 a day...do I feel cheated? no...i sold it, it was my decision to sell it, and the buyer purchased it with the direct intention from profitting off it. Maybe you think people come on these forums for fun and purchase your layouts as a hobby, but you're sadly mistaken.

[Precious]

so you're saying you dont want people to profit off the layouts you sell them? I have news for you..people buy layouts from you or anyone else with the sole intention of profiting from them. I once sold a site 5 years ago for $100. That site now makes over $1,000 a day...do I feel cheated? no...i sold it, it was my decision to sell it, and the buyer purchased it with the direct intention from profitting off it. Maybe you think people come on these forums for fun and purchase your layouts as a hobby, but you're sadly mistaken.
No, I know exactly what these layouts are being used for. My point is they should not be put on sites unless you own them.

I have nothing further to say, other than - If you purchased my layouts, please do not put them on this site as I only gave permission for sites you own. Thanks.

I am done with this thread, now.

[vcff]

Heres a tissue for you:)

[vcff]

Make sure you dont put them on Jermys site either

[bosshogg01]

vcff, are you related to fryman???

[vcff]

Ill make sure I dont add your layouts I bought Precious but only cause I like your work!

:)

[vcff]

lol thank god no:)

[Assailant]

ouch...getting compared to fryman is a bit harsh.

At least someone is defending me though, I launch LayoutsNetwork and get a bunch of negative criticism. Jeremy gets inspired by it and does something very much similar to it and gets nothing but praises for it. Something a few members have noticed.

[bosshogg01]

o dont get me wrong, i think its a great idea, its not like your saying you made the layouts, you giving a place to people can see what site offers what layouts and have a direct link to there site, kinda like virtual mall of layouts

[Precious]

I am not bashing your idea. I never said it was a bad idea. I just think allowing users to submit layouts they did not make, is a bad idea. There are differences there. The idea is great! I Submitted a few layouts myself, and found it the easiest to work with. I was able to add layouts in just seconds - i've tried this before with other sites and it took forever to add layouts. You had to go through step after step, but this was done in 15-20 seconds per layouts. Props. My only concern was users submitting layouts they, themselves, did not make. So please do not take it as me bashing your idea.

[Assailant]

Precious...your site has a nifty tool

http://www.mycuteeeos.com/Layout_Stealer/

"LAYOUT STEALER"

I even tested it...it takes the profile code, strips the original credit link(s) and replaces it with your own.

I have never seen a better example of hypocrisy.

[Precious]

How come precious is promoting the theft of other peoples layouts? Then coming in here worried about her layout being added to some site? At least it was paid for legitimately.

http://www.mycuteeeos.com/Layout_Stealer/

I'm Just Playing but it is silly :) That actually comes with MSRS. (note from Greg: No, this actually does not come with MSRS) Which if you visit my site daily, you would know it's being worked on daily. I just baught that script about a week ago, Greg can vouch for that. Can't doo to much in a weeks time period.

And TJ, I was thinking the same thing myself.

Ps. Vcff, I seen your post ;)

[Assailant]

if thats an oversight, then thats still your mistake and responsibility. How do you know greg didnt hide a raunchy video on that page? I only brought it up as a defense, you just need to chose your battles more carefully.

[urheart]

Precious, I so agree with you. I thought that this was for the designers to submit their layouts.

I don't think it's fair. Some of us designers didn't come out at a time when it was easier to get all the traffic and make $2,000+ a day off myspace resource websites, so we sell our layouts and make money that way. Some of the people who buy layouts already had a lot of money, some of which spend hundreds on layouts. Now, they get to submit the layouts on layoutnetworks.net website and leave with an extra $1,000.

I don't consider the buyers submitting their layouts to this site as a form of theft because they DID pay for it, however, it kind of sucks when someone else can buy your work for a cheap price and win a thousand dollars off of it. Some of these guys had so many advantages already...what about us? Can we get at least a drop of water on our tounges? It's like the struggling designers lose either way.

It makes me want to take my layouts down from there because many of the people who dish money out on layouts, submitting someone else's work come from these high traffic PR4-PR6 websites. So that means they can refer more people and send more views, whether the layout is good or not.

But it's his site and it sounds like I'm whinning, so whatever. I'll stop here.

[minnseoelite]

i don't see a problem when it comes to just submitting layouts to layoutsnetwork if you made them or not for the extra site exposure cause you are just doing it for traffic gain. But I do think winning $1k off someone else's work is not right but thats just my opinion. Anyways good luck to all of you and overall I think the contest is a brilliant idea :)

[Assailant]

Listen, we can go on about this all day, but as much as I appreciate the controversy and the free bumps (all this is causing an insane amount of submissions) Ide really much rather be on good terms with everyone here. I think LayoutsNetwork is 100% ethical. If you have any problem with any submitted layout, use the contact page and ill address any issues you have.

Quote category was added.

[Panic!]

I agree with precious whats the point if the actual designer is not going to win? You might aswell buy the layouts and upload them yourself save yourself $900 or so.

[Assailant]

Precious, the layouts which you submitted all but one were rejected, they were all the same layout, you're cntrl+c either isnt working right or you clicking too fast. Either way, you can resubmit those.

by the way I do have a feature in the works which will help designers sell their layouts on the site and a request board for users to request layouts.

This is going to be a good thing for everyone..if you dont agree with it, dont use it. Ide very much rather have everyones support though.

Minn & Panic like I said tho..the contest is not about the best looking layout. This is a traffic contest...whoever drives the most traffic to their layout(s) wins.

I tell it how it is..im not just giving away $1,000 this is an investment for me.

[minnseoelite]

Minn & Panic like I said tho..the contest is not about the best looking layout. This is a traffic contest...whoever drives the most traffic to their layout(s) wins.


I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about the best looking layout.....Like you said its all about traffic and that is the whole reason I submitted any...I have not even submitted a single layout since this contest began.

[Assailant]

sorry minn, my mind is in a million places at once, that was mainly directed to panic.

Im currently monitoring these forums, on the phone and reading stock tips all at the same time.

[Panic!]

I still don't think it's fair though at the end of the day the designers are the ones that made those layouts they should have a say what goes up if they made them but thats just my opinion and at the end of the day it's your contest so good luck to all who enter.

[Assailant]

Panic..whats the point of buying a layout if you need permission to do certain things with it? Unless otherwise stated the buyer can do whatever he/she wants with the layouts for personal gain except claim to be the original property rights owner and resell.

From now on whenever you sell your layouts put a disclaimer at the bottom explaining exactly how much they can profit off them. See how many sales you get.

[Panic!]

Thats what customs are for.

[Assailant]

im not going to discuss intellectual rights any further. If you are against how layoutsnetwork operates then dont use it. If you want to pursue layout design theft you're starting at the wrong place. If you like I can provide you a list of sites which conduct blatant thievery of your layout designs.

[Panic!]

As I said your rules.
Guess it's my fault for not providing tagging.

[omen]

Well, I'll just say nice contest, and I look forward to getting some layouts up there!

[Assailant]

Well, I'll just say nice contest, and I look forward to getting some layouts up there!

Better get em up there sooner than later, the earlier you get them up the more traffic you will get..everyone up there already has a head start.

[hotmonkee]

as a designer, when i sell my graphics, its the buyers property. unless stated otherwise.

i understand the concept of the contest, i understand that someone else may make money off your layout design, however, i think designers need to be very specific on their sales threads to avoid future conflict. i couldnt read the whole thread so i hope im not repeating someone else.

i always thought that if you purchase graphics on here, you have the rights to do whatever with them except resell (if mentioned), not just limited to the rights to display them. so now when i purchase things, i will be clear on what rights i do have with the images.

fortunately, i only submitted layouts i made ;)

and after reading the thread now....this isn't about the layout itself, its about traffic. whoever gets the most traffic. thats what im getting from it.

[Assailant]

as a designer, when i sell my graphics, its the buyers property. unless stated otherwise.

i understand the concept of the contest, i understand that someone else may make money off your layout design, however, i think designers need to be very specific on their sales threads to avoid future conflict. i couldnt read the whole thread so i hope im not repeating someone else.

i always thought that if you purchase graphics on here, you have the rights to do whatever with them except resell (if mentioned), not just limited to the rights to display them. so now when i purchase things, i will be clear on what rights i do have with the images.

fortunately, i only submitted layouts i made ;)

and after reading the thread now....this isn't about the layout itself, its about traffic. whoever gets the most traffic. thats what im getting from it.

you're 100% correct.

its a moot point now. Cmon guys wheres the competition...This is for a thousand American dollars. Theres no competition right now, theres a grand for the taking, I would think there would be a bit more competition.

[hotmonkee]

well. im gonna make some more layouts. or something.

[kenzie]

you're 100% correct.

its a moot point now. Cmon guys wheres the competition...This is for a thousand American dollars. Theres no competition right now, theres a grand for the taking, I would think there would be a bit more competition.
The layout I submit is now #2. Can you delete that #1 entry? ;)

ROFL

[hotmonkee]

The layout I submit is now #2. Can you delete that #1 entry? ;)

ROFL

can you just give me the money?

[kenzie]

Edit** only members of this forum are eligible to win and must be a member for at least a week.
Is SnazzySpace a member here? :?

[Assailant]

can you just give me the money?

I already have a fiance that i "just give me money to". so you'll have to promote your layouts like everyone else to win the cash

[Greg-J]

Just for the record, MSRS does not come with any layout stealer....


We all operate by a certain standard here. A certain code of ethics if you will. We all pay for the content because it's what's right and we know it, but when you break down the mechanics of the process it's as simple as this: When you sell a webmaster here a pack of layouts you are specifically giving them the right to not only use the layout on their site(s), but you're giving them the permission to give the layout away to be used on any other site - specifically myspace.com. How is that not clear as day?

One would assume that when you sell someone here a layout you are selling it to them so they can put it on their site for people to then use on myspace and send traffic back to said site for monetary gain, yes? It's not like I invented the niche, but I've been around long enough to know how it works pretty well. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

After actually paying attention to what LayoutsNetwork is, I think it's brilliant. I should have thought of it first. If f I had - and made it part of myspacepros - I think people would have gotten behind it. Assailant may come off as rough around the edges, but that's no reason to make something out of nothing.


If you think I'm wrong though, start a thread about this in the appropriate section and we'll discuss it. The notion of rights is one I think ought to be discussed and I'm surprised it hasn't been already. Let's not trash the thread simply because we have a different understanding of how this niche works though.

[Dale]

I'm going to be submitting some layouts later, assailant. I personally do agree this is a very brilliant idea. If I were you, I'd watch your back. ROFL Some people might come after you to steal that site of yours. Anyway, just ignore the negativety. It sometimes happens when people either don't like an idea or are just jealous.

[hotmonkee]

I already have a fiance that i "just give me money to". so you'll have to promote your layouts like everyone else to win the cash

:eek: i guess. i always ask for free stuff. even though i dont mean it...or do i?? :whistling:

[Assailant]

What would everyone thing about starting the contest this monday? And you have to enter before monday to be counted in and you can submit your layouts etc. I think this would make it more fair and have everyone ready. What does everyone think?

[hotmonkee]

um. which ever. i know im far behind cuz i just submitted. maybe make a timeframe for submissions, like you can only submit by this date...then start the views going forward....that would be fair as far as time frame for the contest i think.

or i guess first come, more views.

[Assailant]

I think the cut off to submit and enter would be sunday at 10:00 PM est. im in favor of this idea. lets get 10 votes majority wins. this will give everyone a chance to prepare...rather a spur of the moment thing as it is

[wakeboardr99]

beh, i work on a crappy layout as fast as i can at 5 in the morning to hear we are now rescheduled.... I vote no, but if majority shall choose yes, I also think you should redistribute the winnings to first, second, and third, and not just first - that would give more people an incentive to try. Someone mentioned this before - I think they have the right idea.

[omen]

I wouldn't restart. It's been over a complete day now, and some people have been sending traffic, and have entered. Everyone has seen this thread basically, alot complained. Just leave the contest running I say! There's still plenty of time to get the submissions in and going.

I vote no!

[Jordan]

I think the cut off to submit and enter would be sunday at 10:00 PM est. im in favor of this idea. lets get 10 votes majority wins. this will give everyone a chance to prepare...rather a spur of the moment thing as it is
i like that idea, but i think what would be better is to start the contest on say, wednesday. you should have an opening date if you get me. cos like, i entered a few layouts today and the people who entered yesterday are way ahead... you should just count visits between the opening day and that day the next week or whatever. that gives a chance for more people to enter. i like having competition and trying to work my way up the ranks.

i still don't like the idea of people using other people's designs UNLESS it is custom work.
if i've sold layouts in a pack and others are submitting them + making a one thousand dollar profit off them with me getting no credit, i don't find that fair. i sell layouts for people to use on their sites, not to enter in competitions and make amounts of money such as $1000 off. it takes me months upon months to make that amount but most of the people that purchase layouts off me have big myspace sites making hundreds a day...

I've entered a couple of layouts and im promoting them on my site so hopefully that helps somewhat. good luck to everyone =)

[urheart]

i still don't like the idea of people using other people's designs UNLESS it is custom work.
if i've sold layouts in a pack and others are submitting them + making a one thousand dollar profit off them with me getting no credit, i don't find that fair. i sell layouts for people to use on their sites, not to enter in competitions and make amounts of money such as $1000 off. it takes me months upon months to make that amount but most of the people that purchase layouts off me have big myspace sites making hundreds a day...



I KNOW! That's exactly what I said!

[supportomatic]

I just submitted a batch of 10 layouts (layouts I created personally, just for the record). Waiting for them to be approved and I'll start promoting. I'm more of a quality vs. quantity guy, so I've been waiting for something like this where quality is rewarded. I just have to roll my eyes when I see people promoting on their sites that they have 10,000+ layouts. Who wants 10,000+ crappy layouts? I've always chosen quality over quantity and am probably not where I could be in the SERPs as a result. (ok, now who'd like to give me a gold star for that? :D)

Anyway, as for entering someone else's design in a contest, I personally wouldn't. If you can't design a quality layout yourself, it's probably best not to enter a contest that's based (at least partially) on the appeal of your design... Although, I do acknowledge this is more about promotion...

Kudos on creating a great site! I had planned something similar but have never taken it off the back burner.

I'll be watching to see when my layouts are approved... and then it's on like Donkey Kong. ;)

[MrWizard]

I think the cut off to submit and enter would be sunday at 10:00 PM est. im in favor of this idea. lets get 10 votes majority wins. this will give everyone a chance to prepare...rather a spur of the moment thing as it is

I have submitted several layouts from my sites from day one. I don't have a problem with restarting on Monday. Give's everyone plenty of time to enter. Seems more fair to all.

[markp9114]

i vote yes. i wanted to do this as welll, but i figured i shoulda done it earlier because everyone already has a head start

[supportomatic]

I vote for a restart. But either way, be prepared to get whoop'd. :biggrin:
:whackit:

[bosshogg01]

i vote yes.. and also, what about people that upload the same layouts as you, ive seen a couple of the same ones ive posted on there

[urheart]

i vote yes.. and also, what about people that upload the same layouts as you, ive seen a couple of the same ones ive posted on there

And that's another reason why only designers should enter. See that?

[bosshogg01]

And that's another reason why only designers should enter. See that?
I think your missing the whole point of the site, its not just about layouts itselfs, its what site is offering what layouts so you can get more people to the site to see what other layouts you have to offer, and if someone does get a layout from his site, its still coming from your site

[Assailant]

urheart...thats the same thing as someone going to website1.com and seeing a beyonce layout and then going to website2.com and seeing that same beyonce layout. it happens all the time...all layoutsnetwork is is a portal for convenience.

The people have spoken now till sunday will give people a chance to enter and submit their layouts, when monday strikes...let the games begin. ill email everyone as well so nobody is out of the loop.

[Assailant]

Ok folks...emails have been sent to everyone who I have on file...if you didnt get it please subscribe to the list:

www.layoutsnetwork.com/sml/process.php

this is an optin list, so you can remove yourself using the same link.

[hotmonkee]

wow. i think the whole issue of what rights you have to the layouts you bought should be burried for this contest because

1. if it wasn't stated in the sales thread for the layouts that you bought that you couldn't submit it to generate traffice then i believe the site owner who purchased the layouts have rights to do whatever they want with them except resell (if thats whats stated in the thread)

2. there are so many opinions on it, i think it should be discussed elsewhere and for future, similar contests, furthermore, designers NEED to be more specific on what rights the buyer has to the images. I for one, give the buyer total rights to do whatever with anything they purchase from me, except resell or use on other sites that are not owned by them. edit//wanted to clarify...to be tagged for other resource sites they do not own.

3. its not about the layout...its about the traffic. they arent claiming the layout as their own creation, they are submitting something to generate traffic. Kinda like Blockbuster, they didnt make the movies but they promote them and generate traffic to their stores.

Maybe someone should start a thread regarding this issue, as Greg suggested.

[Assailant]

thanks hotmonkee, you couldnt be more correct. greg already resolved this and further enforced what I believe to be the rights one gains when purchasing a layout

[supportomatic]

This thing still on for Monday? What time are stats resetting?

[Jordan]

^ wondering the same question.

so traffic is being counted from monday onwards to the following monday?

dang i need to get preparedd.

[MyFugginSpace]

layoutsnetwork is not up?