Smart Pricing woes

[Greg-J]

I don't understand Smart Pricing even more now. I've been comparing two of my myspace sites, each based off different scripts. Site A gets about 2 times the traffic as Site B, yet Site B gets about twice the clicks. You would think Site B is the better performer of the two when it comes to CPC, and overall earnings right?. Not so. With 2 times the clicks on 1/2 the traffic, Site B makes half what Site A site does...

That makes perfect sense! No, not really. I'm still confused.

[fryman]

I get different earnings from the same script on different sites.


Since the pool of ads is so big you can't really define a pattern.

[Scilynt]

How do you know if you are getting smart priced? Or is everyone just getting it?

[Greg-J]

I'm just assuming really. Both sites pull the same ads. Always the same ads. Yet one site gets 2 to 4 times the EPC that the other does regardless of having a higher CTR.

[alexisthemovie]

i have a strong feeling smart pricing is account based as i have 2 adsense accounts (1 personal and 1 business). my personal account is 9 months old and smart priced due to the proxies i have. i ran adsense code off both accounts onto my msrs site and one account had 3x the rpc of the other.

also, since i sold all my proxies, my personal account seemingly has become "un-smartpriced" as i'm getting very good rates on my one pagers and forums.

[Scilynt]

dumb question, does the TOS allow you to have more than one adsense account? Could be useful to have more than one...

[fryman]

not unless you open one as a business account

[Greg-J]

I really should open a seperate one for my business now that you bring it up.

[Fishfinger]

Same here. Several MSRS sites with different content but the same script, the same ads and almost the same traffic origin.

EPC varies by %300 from one to another.

Drives me insane.

[Greg-J]

Same here. Several MSRS sites with different content but the same script, the same ads and almost the same traffic origin.

EPC varies by %300 from one to another.

Drives me insane.
Mmmm.... We might have a problem there partner.

[Fishfinger]

Greg....I have mutiple licenses.

PM sent with ScriptHippo login.

[Greg-J]

Fishfinger, indeed. You had me worried for a moment their ;)

[chihpih]

dumb question, does the TOS allow you to have more than one adsense account? Could be useful to have more than one...

i have 2 accounts, one is personal and one is business. a business is a completely different entity from me so therefore it is not violating any
TOS

[nikolaalx]

Hi all,
I am aware that I am a complete noob for myspace, but I have previous experience with image hosting sites. In fact one of my sites has an alexa of less than 20k.

Not far ago, I decided to make an experiment. To try and trigger "make money" related ads on an image hosting site. This idea came to me when I implemented the affiliate system which my image hosting site has, and thus not violating the TOS of Google I started changing different things of my site (for which I was aware that had something to do with the triggering of adsense).

The first thing I did was I implemented the affiliate system. With the affiliate system I made the pages content rich on terms like "make money" and "get paid". It didn't have any essential results.

Then I changed the names of the pages themselves. For an example, I changed addiliate.php into make_money.php and the results were astonishing. Really I was quite amazed on how much weight the name of the file itself has. Furthermore adding a subdirectory boosts the effect more. E.g www.widgets.com/get_paid/make_money.com will have 1 "widget" ad and 9 "make money".
while www.widgets.com/affiliate.php will have 7 "widget" ads and 2 "non related" and maybe 1 "affiliate"

Now..this is all approximations based on my experiments.

The next step I made was trying changing the keywords in the domain.

I made a clone of my site. Changed the layouts, colors etc.

The original Image hosting site was www.picfury.com
The new one with the especially chosen domain was www.Affiliate-Pics.com

I decided to use a hifen because I this way the crawler makes difference between the words and counts them as separate, whilst affiliatepics.com would be counted as something quite hard to understand. Now when i uploaded the site the results were quite nice.

When you try to load affiliate-pics.com you will see that the site pops at least 2 "make money" related ads on the homepage...And for picfury.com it pops 0 such ads. And furthermore when uploading images and doing the activities which picfury does, affiliate-pics.com has shown a drastic increase in such "make money" ads while at the same time it is exactly the same site, script, backend and content as picfury.com which triggers mainly "images" ads.

Now, the point which I wanted to make for Greg is that you will be amazed on how much a domain name could mean to the crawler.

IMO factors for ad triggering are something like this

20% Domain Keywords, 20 % Structure Keywords, 5% Title, 55% Content

Now For those which want to help out a goodwilling newbie, plz give me some kind of advise on how to promote my MSRS site, cuz this is quite different than any of my other sites....and I am feeling inconfident with the marketing strategy which I am about to use.

[Fishfinger]

You are forgetting an important variable: Traffic source

If you use the technique you outlined above you will get good results initially, but with a myspace site you are only delaying the inevitable.

Sooner or later you will get a lot of visitors coming from myspace, the adsense code will track that and serve ads accordingly.

You might also want to consider how difficult it is going to be to rank for myspace related search terms while trying to hide it.....




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[Cyclops]

In regard to pricing, I think Google changed the rules again on !st November.

In three niches I am in that have high paying keywords the payout for Adsense has plummeted. I was receiving a minimum of .50 per click for the three niches, usually $1+, suddenly I am receiving as low as 3 cents for the clicks.

The Niches are Weight loss, Loans and Webhosting.

My earnings are way way down for the first two days of this month.

[fryman]

I noticed the same since a few days ago. Had to stop some advertising on my sites because Adsense just wasn't covering it.