chicken v's steak

[minnseoelite]

$600 sent you to the poor house? sounds like you need more than text links.


Not all of us are swimming in cash.......you do know the economy has went down the sewer with the help of that idiot that calls himself the president :gun_bandana:

[PGZ]

Not all of us are swimming in cash.......you do know the economy has went down the sewer with the help of that idiot that calls himself the president :gun_bandana:

YOU are responsible for YOU. When you start blaming others for your own mistakes and misfortunes then its time to sit back with a mirror and start blaming yourself instead.

Your life is not the responsibility of the Government. Stop depending on the Government for your own welfare and depend on yourself.

Also....................the Economy IS NOT controlled by the President even though many people that dont know any better Blame whoever is in office for it.

Life is what you make or dont make of it. You have the FREEDOM to be and do whatever you want. **** doesnt just drop in your lap so stop waiting for it to do so.

I myself almost died to give you that opportunity to be and do whatever you want. Please take advantage of it.

[fapsian]

Not all of us are swimming in cash.......you do know the economy has went down the sewer with the help of that idiot that calls himself the president

Not getting in a political debate, I am sure you can easily prove that the economy is in the sewer, with all the housing boom, lowest unemployment in decades - around 4.6% (In fact, in 1996 when Bill Clinton was running for re-election, the media bragged about the unemployment at the time of around 6%.), small businesses booming, stock market is at a high.
Oh did you hear about that 101 year old lady getting punched in the face in NY? It's the Presidents fault too.

[minnseoelite]

Housing Boom lmao I guess you have not been keeping up on current events cause for the last month all they have been talking about is how the housing market is sliding further into a hole (Yahoo News)

And the stock market has been plumiting as well (or did you miss the news where it took its biggest drop in years just a week or so ago)

And as for unemployment lmao thats a joke its all based on all these imm. coming in and filling up min. wage positions which makes the unemployment rate look good but in reality its the other way around......most of the decent paying jobs are either filled or have moved overseas thanks to Bushes tax incentives he gave big businesses to move overseas so yea unemployment might be at 4.6% but who can afford to live on $5.75 or $6.00 an hour (this thanks to the republicans and bush refusing to raise the min wage for the last 10 years)

Sure if your one of those making $60k+ a year and believe all the gov. BS then things look good but if your one of the majority of the people in the US making $35k or less then you know better. I am not saying all this cause I feel sorry for myself as most of this does not affect me (i am self employed and my fiancee has a job and im not in school)

[PGZ]

Housing Boom lmao I guess you have not been keeping up on current events cause for the last month all they have been talking about is how the housing market is sliding further into a hole (Yahoo News)

Better then when Clinton was in office

And the stock market has been plumiting as well (or did you miss the news where it took its biggest drop in years just a week or so ago)

Has reached and surpassed any high number it ever was when Clinton was in office

And as for unemployment lmao thats a joke its all based on all these imm. coming in and filling up min. wage positions which makes the unemployment rate look good but in reality its the other way around......most of the decent paying jobs are either filled or have moved overseas thanks to Bushes tax incentives he gave big businesses to move overseas so yea unemployment might be at 4.6% but who can afford to live on $5.75 or $6.00 an hour (this thanks to the republicans and bush refusing to raise the min wage for the last 10 years)

Min wage wasnt and isnt meant to live on. Never has been. Do you know why the Dems want to reaise Min wage ?? Its not because they care for the lazy person that doesnt want to better themselves so they can make more.

Who is the BIGGEST Contributor to the Dem Party ?? Unions are and you know what happens if Min wage goes up ?? The majority of Union members will get pay raises cause they have to stay a certain % higher then Min wage. So though they have you fooled thinking they are for the little man in all actuality its for the HIGHEST Contributor to the Dem party/

Sure if your one of those making $60k+ a year and believe all the gov. BS then things look good but if your one of the majority of the people in the US making $35k or less then you know better. I am not saying all this cause I feel sorry for myself as most of this does not affect me (i am self employed and my fiancee has a job and im not in school)

ANYONE can make whatever and be WHATEVER they want. You arent RESTRICTED to make 35K a year. You settle for 35K a year cause you dont wanna to what it take to make that 60K.

Go to school and learn a trade. Market yourself. If the job your in dead ends at 35K then YOU made a BAD choice in what you picked and its time to move on.

Also may I explain the tax cuts that companies get about the moving overseas thing you mentioned.

You like many others have been brainwashed to believe whatever you are told so do you want the truth on that ???

Bush nor anyone else can stop a Company from moving EVERYTHING Overseas. When a Company makes the decision to do this Bush and even Clinton have tried to keep them here. An incentive to stay here is a tax cut for not moving EVERYTHING overseas. But to also keep jobs here.

If someone is an adult and is earning Min wage then in my eyes they gave up on themselves and you cant help someone that is unwilling to help themselves first.

There are THOUSANDS of high paying jobs in the Classifides here. But if you have nothing to offer them other then your a good person you will NEVER succeed.






I could go on and on but until you as an idividual decide to take self responsibility for yourself Im wasting my time cause you will continue to blame everyone but yourself.

[minnseoelite]

Ok well if things are sooooo much better then why is it there are more people than ever without insurance? Hmmm perhaps because yes they may be employed but its at the local burger joint and they can barely afford to live let along afford insurance.

Here is a little example of my experience with this from a year ago before I started working soley online

As for the job market I know its not good cause I live in a town of 30,000 people with several larger towns within a 30 minute drive and spent almost 6 months looking for a "decent" job only to end up staring at the help wanted sign at the local McDonalds. And its not for lack of experience my area has alot of factory, contstruction, and tech. based jobs all for which I have multiple years of experience but the need for them to hire additional employees just ain't there anymore as most of them have had to scale back to nothing more than skeleton crews just to keep operating in todays economy. Also if employment and the economy is sooooo good then why have dozens of national companies had to file for bankruptcy or let go tens of thousands of works? Not the sign of a good economy to me? So when the president gave his little BS state of the Union address you actually bought it? And if the economy is doing sooo well then why is it everytime you turn on the news all you hear is "well this company filed for bankruptcy, or that company went under, millions no longer can afford health insurance, more americans than ever are loosing their homes to bank loans defaulting, and on and on and on"

And on a final note ok I know the minimum wage was not meant to live on long term and ok so unemployment is a 4.6% cause of Bush claiming his administration has created over 100k new jobs. BUT if you look a majority of those NEW jobs are low paying minimum wage jobs....So if you take what you said about the minimum wage and combine it with Bush's claims regarding the "100k+ new jobs" his administration has created then what you end up with is that Bush created over 100k new, basically worthless minimum wage jobs......congratulations someone give him a cookie for that one :P

And once again I dont blame anyone for my problems cause I dont really have any at the moment other than my Child Support which yes is my problem cause its my kid. What I am blaming is the poor state of the economy in general on those responsible for taking care of it.....The Government

And yes you are right no one can change my mind on it cause I believe what I see not just what I hear. But anyways this was a fun little debate and if anyone got there toes stepped on I apologize but hey thats the fun of debating aint it :p

[shimmeringgraphix]

Wow I love how this turned into a huge debate.

[minnseoelite]

Yup and its soooo much fun.....I am firm in my views but like to get people going just for fun.......yea that probably makes me an a** but I just think most people need to lighten up anyways

[bosshogg01]

wow, the guy just wanted to trade up for some links, not get bashed about his personal views. that looks real good to all the new people that are coming here to read that :(

[minnseoelite]

Me and pgz are not bashing anyones views I made a post and pgz did not agree with it so we are having a little friendly debate is all.

[minnseoelite]

Hey blast I checked out your site and it looks to me like you have a few to many ads on there which is probably lowering your repeat visitor rate (6 banners, 1 popup, and 2 adsense/ypn)

Oh since we kind of took over your thread I guess I will offer you a link exchange with my site www.layoutscube.com PM me if interested.

[PGZ]

Yeah I didnt mean to take over the thread at all I was just responding to a remark.

In response to no jobs being where you are...........You know there is a new thing out there called UHAUL and works pretty good and can take you to that job you are looking for.

If a town only has chicken and you want a steak you gotta go to where the steak is ya know.

[minnseoelite]

Yeah I didnt mean to take over the thread at all I was just responding to a remark.

In response to no jobs being where you are...........You know there is a new thing out there called UHAUL and works pretty good and can take you to that job you are looking for.

If a town only has chicken and you want a steak you gotta go to where the steak is ya know.

Yup I know and believe me myself and my fiancee are working on getting back into Minneapolis/St.Paul just have to catch up on a few things and save up the cash

[goodman0000]

Clinton Clinton Cliton that's who we need!

[minnseoelite]

trying to raz up the debate again lol

[goodman0000]

opps hehe............

[tmoney]

steak...hands down.