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discoverclips
August 21st, 2006, 03:06 AM
Lately I've been thinking about this:
What if MySpace decides to launch its own Graphics/Layout section on myspace.com

You know it is possible. They already have a game section, music section and they faked youtube with their videoplayer.

MySpace wants to protect its users, wants to keep advertisers happy, so they do not like links to other websites (layout sites).

I wouldn't be surprised if they'd come up with their own graphic section very soon.
Artists & advertisers could even put their advertisements (urls) on the graphics/wallpapers.

What do you think?

fryman
August 21st, 2006, 03:19 AM
Only thing we can do is enjoy the ride while it lasts

Scilynt
August 21st, 2006, 03:23 AM
This is a repost of another thread I posted a while back but has to do with this:

I was reading an article in Wired magazine about Rupert Murdoch and myspace among other things. Part of it talked about how Tom and Chris stayed on and continue working to develope and such. Anyway, this is the part that I perked up for:

"New features are in the works, including a drag-and-drop profile editor known as the Shuffler and an RSS desktop widget that makes it easy to post photos."

I couldn't find anything about this "shuffler" but wonder how indepth it may be. I mean, I assume it would include the needed tools to customize but will it have all the "content" for users to use?

AT first I was worried as it seemed like they were going to try to bring more stuff inhouse. But regardless how many tools and such they include, there will always be a lot of people who want more custom content and such. Though myspace resource sites may take a hit on the myspace layout traffic, depending on how good their shuffler is. But then again, if it really sucks, it could actually help by educating more users that they can customize their profiles and to start searching for ways to do it.

What do you guys think?

I found the article online if you want to read it. Only a small part deals with plans and such but still an interesting read.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.07/murdoch_pr.html



I think there will always be room for outside resource/tool type sites. I assume myspace will work on more ways to keep the traffic there but it's hard to say what the kind of developement money they have, could do.

PGZ
August 21st, 2006, 03:25 AM
Even if they do they cant match the selection of so many Resource sites. They will never be able to offer the selection that we have.

We will always make what they dont or wont.

PGZ

Cyclops
August 21st, 2006, 03:34 AM
It will probably happen....but look at ebay, you would think everybody in the world either belongs or knows how to log into ebay and sign up. But Shawn at Digital Point still makes thousands of dollars every month from referrals. And there are a lot more sites doing that as well.

The same applies to Myspace resource sites, people will still use our sites, the weak will fold but the strong ones will keep going. We may have to add product that Myspace won't, go a little more adult maybe.

Drew
August 21st, 2006, 03:35 AM
and of course diversify...

PGZ
August 21st, 2006, 03:42 AM
It will probably happen....but look at ebay, you would think everybody in the world either belongs or knows how to log into ebay and sign up. But Shawn at Digital Point still makes thousands of dollars every month from referrals. And there are a lot more sites doing that as well.

The same applies to Myspace resource sites, people will still use our sites, the weak will fold but the strong ones will keep going. We may have to add product that Myspace won't, go a little more adult maybe.

AMEN 120% agree.

PGZ

metalgem3
August 21st, 2006, 01:58 PM
Hello MyspacePros friends,
I am friends with 3 myspace developers and one of the myspace founders, kyle brinkerman.
I have been given basic information regarding the shuffler but not about the widget, The shuffler will just help people remove stuff and tweak the css of there myspace, not add layouts etc.
When speaking to Phil (the head developer of myspace im) he explained to me that myspace will never be able to replicate the content on the Billion myspace support sites out there. The plan is to make something like www.my-codes.net/hidestuff which was actually designed when looking at the beta of the Shuffler,
if you guys have any questions just ask,

Scilynt
August 21st, 2006, 02:03 PM
Hello MyspacePros friends,
I am friends with 3 myspace developers and one of the myspace founders, kyle brinkerman.
I have been given basic information regarding the shuffler but not about the widget, The shuffler will just help people remove stuff and tweak the css of there myspace, not add layouts etc.
When speaking to Phil (the head developer of myspace im) he explained to me that myspace will never be able to replicate the content on the Billion myspace support sites out there. The plan is to make something like www.my-codes.net/hidestuff (http://www.my-codes.net/hidestuff) which was actually designed when looking at the beta of the Shuffler,
if you guys have any questions just ask,Cool to hear and thanks for the info.

Any word, official or opinion, on what myspace thinks of the resource sites? Like do they see it as helpful and a valuable resource or just some annoying leeches trying to ride the wave? To be honest, I personally think they are both but am curious what myspaces stand is.

PGZ
August 21st, 2006, 02:17 PM
MySpace wouldnt be where it is today without said sites.....Pimping your page is one of the things that people like about MySpace without it I dont know where it would be now.

Just my opinion

PGZ

Scilynt
August 21st, 2006, 02:36 PM
MySpace wouldnt be where it is today without said sites.....Pimping your page is one of the things that people like about MySpace without it I dont know where it would be now.

Just my opinion

PGZI agree and smart companies realize their community (any sites related) are important to their success. But there are companies out there that don't "get it" and think of it as more of a pest they need to squash.

Kind of like what happened to the gaming industry with user created mods and files. At first many of the big publishers/developers didn't get it and even tried to shut the sites and groups down. But some of the smarter ones saw the potential and appreciated the outside support and now many even distribute tools to help make it easier.

Just wondering if myspace is one of the smart ones and appreciates the resource sites or if it considers them pest.

PGZ
August 21st, 2006, 08:14 PM
I think for the main part they just dont like the MySpace in the name. I myself have 1 site that has it in the domain.

I will change it if need be but until then I will ride the wave.

PGZ

Greg-J
August 22nd, 2006, 12:20 AM
I have about 8 domains with myspace in the name *looks at the address bar*. I only actually use 3 of them and the other 5 sit dormant waiting for a home. I'm not overly concerned about it at the moment. A C&D letter for that from myspace is for nothing more than providing themselves with a paper trail proving they have been defending their trademark in my opinion.

PGZ
August 22nd, 2006, 06:21 AM
I have about 8 domains with myspace in the name *looks at the address bar*. I only actually use 3 of them and the other 5 sit dormant waiting for a home. I'm not overly concerned about it at the moment. A C&D letter for that from myspace is for nothing more than providing themselves with a paper trail proving they have been defending their trademark in my opinion.

Could be Greg...As mentioned in a thread in here before MySpaceSupport.com has ignored such a letter and they are still operating.

PGZ

metalgem3
August 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM
Hello MyspacePros,
Andrew from myspacesupport.com was or maybe still is going to change his domain name because of the letter myspace sent him. But myspace wont really take legal action against you unless your pulling 20Million uniques a day and are worth going after (something like rnyspace.com which myspace reported to the fbi etc).
Regarding myspace's opinions of the resource sites i was told a few various things from 2 dev's. Myspace is not very fond of support sites because 60% of the advertising networks myspace use are based on CPM payouts and when a users leaves Myspace.com to goto a resource site they start losing valuable impressions/pennies and nickels. But in another way myspace.com really appreciates these resource sits because of various circumstances such as myspace tightening up certain security aspects of the site due to the actions that some resource sites were commiting.

In addition myspace resource sites do screw up myspaces simple but golden ad placement in certain circumstances. So i guess you could say that myspace likes some support sites and dislikes some support sites. sites like www.bbzspace.com are in great terms with myspace and sites like www.myspacescriptz.com are at war with myspace ;) hehe greg.

I hope that gives everyone a better feel to how myspace feels about its "competitors"

later everyone
Harrison
(currently Writing you in a luxury flat in monte carlo on vacation,)

Scilynt
August 22nd, 2006, 01:41 PM
Although some ad reveunue may be lost due to users leaving myspace to get resources, they always go back to actually use those resources. And odds are, the users spending time pimping their profiles are users that spend a lot of time on myspace.com anyway. My guess is they refresh their pages much more often just testing out various edits heh.

There is also the idea that the resource sites help raise awareness. Sure, hard to argue that there are people that hanven't heard of myspace (having 100m accounts) but some may not know there are ways to personalize them even more an in turn, end up spending more time and talking about their account with friends and such.

It's good to see they may not have a direct hate towards most of them though.