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spaceboos
January 21st, 2007, 06:54 AM
Hey Gang

It seems im not getting much response from MSRS site owners so i will now open this to everyone.


Im sitting here thinking about getting more traffic to my site when i came up with an idea. We have seen alot here with coop to get content for our sites but if we cant get traffic to our site what is the sense. Im not complaining i get good traffic.

How about we get 15 people interested in an Advertising COOP. Say we all put in 100.00 per month. We could get a link on a top site use a url rotater that would equally disperse traffic to each site.

Now i was looking at a few of the free traffic rotaters and not sure that that would be the way to go, But definately if there is enough interest. Im sure between all of us we could get something going on this.

Give me some feedback on this idea and let me know what you think. I would appreciate no smart allic comments as this is business not a play yard.


Thanks for reading Spaceboos

DavidR
January 21st, 2007, 07:15 AM
Not a very good idea, waste of time. Traffic will be shared so you'll get far less, you'll pay less, but get less. How can you ensure give equal traffic, I don't think you can. I'm out.

YabbaDoo
January 21st, 2007, 07:49 AM
I'm not entirely sure if I understand this to be honest :P
However, I kinda think I get where your going, to make it cheaper etc..And increase the fareness to everyone here.
I dunno I kinda think yeah, it is a good idea.
I know I own one domain I could make into a HUGE site if I could be bothered :(
So, I'm thinking if I put banners rotating on that it would give everyone a fare chance at the money is that kinda what you mean?
So like everyone puts there banners in and you all pay one big sum and you all dispurse the banners in a rotation..I kinda like it, I dunno if I get it

spaceboos
January 21st, 2007, 08:00 AM
try to give you a better idea.

Example

We buy a link on top site like myspacesupport.

we use a keyword like myspace layouts.

the url directed from this would be a rotator that changes to a new site each time its clicked on. This way everyone gets the same traffic and the same amount of hits daily.

This is what i think will work best.

Say there are 15 people paying 100.00 each for advertising we get three sites that send 1500 uniques per day each site gets 100 uniques each from the site we advertise on. meaning that we get 300 uniques per day to our site for 25.00 per week.

This is only an example as we cannot gaurantee traffic.

Hope this helps

DavidR
January 21st, 2007, 08:02 AM
I think you're being way too optomistic with the 1500 from each of the 3 sites.

YabbaDoo
January 21st, 2007, 08:06 AM
Well, I think this is an awesome idea, sometimes you gotta take them risks, and to be honest on a site like that, I think bringing in a LOT of traffic (more than usual) is not being overly optomistic at all!
You know, it seems like an idea to me.
But to do that don't you need to put a special script on the publishers site?
Or just host a page that redirects to the URLs in order?
If so, the webmaster of the site would have to be willing to do that, and do you think they would?

DavidR
January 21st, 2007, 08:15 AM
Well, I think this is an awesome idea, sometimes you gotta take them risks, and to be honest on a site like that, I think bringing in a LOT of traffic (more than usual) is not being overly optomistic at all!

No it really is being hugely optomistic. On your other point, you'll have to clear it with the owner... personally if I owned a site that gets 100+k per day and I charged about $300 a week for a text link, I wouldn't want people joining forces buying one link directing it to numerous sites...

YabbaDoo
January 21st, 2007, 08:19 AM
No it really is being hugely optomistic. On your other point, you'll have to clear it with the owner... personally if I owned a site that gets 100+k per day and I charged about $300 a week for a text link, I wouldn't want people joining forces buying one link directing it to numerous sites...

No, I completely agree with that point yeah!
I think most webmasters who own sites that really are that huge are a little too cautious about driving traffic AWAY (which is effectively what they are doing) from their sites onto other sites providing the same - or even better- quality content! It's a dodgy area really!
Do you be nice to your fellow webmasters and give them a chance while making money in the process, or do you hide your visitors eyes from the others so they only come to you!
It would be wierd to see a link to yahoo.com on google.com to say the least! lol

spaceboos
January 21st, 2007, 02:51 PM
Im not really sure you guys grasp the concept here. Using i rotater is very simple there are tons of free ones on the internet. you just put in 15 different urls and it pops out 1. You use it like you would use any other url to any site. I work with an affiliate program that uses a similar system. I advertise use others ids to send them affilites. It rotates until they all get one affilite than it just starts over.

DavidR
January 21st, 2007, 02:53 PM
Im not really sure you guys grasp the concept here. Using i rotater is very simple there are tons of free ones on the internet. you just put in 15 different urls and it pops out 1. You use it like you would use any other url to any site. I work with an affiliate program that uses a similar system. I advertise use others ids to send them affilites. It rotates until they all get one affilite than it just starts over.

No, I understand perfectly. My points I think still stand... anyway, no matter to me, I'm not getting financially involved with it.

spaceboos
January 21st, 2007, 03:05 PM
Well thanks David for your input. I can see this will be a hard task if at all it will succeed.

Cyclops
January 22nd, 2007, 09:41 PM
I'm up for it ....
David the point you are missing is that if a group get together and pool their resources we can get expousure from a much larger/better site with a greater chance of success then if we go it alone to buy a text link on a site.

15 people each putting in $100 is going to acheive a heck of a lot more than one person with $100 to spend.

He11, I would be willing to spend 1k a week with 15 other people and buy a link on Myspace itself, something I could never do on my own.

Yes the rotator system works, I am in a group of five with a rotator ad system and it's excellent.

On your other point, you'll have to clear it with the owner... personally if I owned a site that gets 100+k per day and I charged about $300 a week for a text link, I wouldn't want people joining forces buying one link directing it to numerous sites...
It doesnt have to be cleared with the owner at all, if you pay him for a link it's your business on what you want to do with it. Can't see the owner having a problem anyway ..... why would he care how many sites it's used for :) .

spaceboos
January 23rd, 2007, 08:55 AM
Thanks Cyclops

Your exactly right. I still think if we could get enough people together this could work great to our advantage.

Scilynt
January 26th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Sounds interesting but I wouldn't suggest myspacesupport for something like this. I only got very average results for the months link I had on there. There has to be bigger and better "converting" sites out there in the same price range?

Cyclops
January 27th, 2007, 01:47 AM
I think myspacesupport was only used as an example .... there's not much use looking for the sites to advertise on until people express an interest in joining in.

Once the numbers are known a budget could be worked out and the sites that correspond within that budget can be approached.

So far it looks like theirs two of us :biggrin:

spaceboos
January 27th, 2007, 04:02 AM
We actually at this point have 4. If there all interested.

jdresse
January 27th, 2007, 05:22 AM
I'd be interested too.

spaceboos
January 27th, 2007, 01:30 PM
If 5 are interested we could do a test run. One week on myspacesupport. Cost would be 35.00 each plus paypal costs. The keyword im using yjere will bring in over 1000 uniques per day.

I think a test is a good way to try this without costing a small fortune.

Let me know if you are interested.

Selena
January 27th, 2007, 06:54 PM
I'd be interested if its that cheap per person for the test link:DD
So that'd make 6 and judging from the math done in the above post its 175 for a one week link, it'd be about 30 per person if you count me.

spaceboos
January 27th, 2007, 06:58 PM
First five to reply to me get in on the test.

Selena
January 27th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I want in. :D

miller2348
January 27th, 2007, 07:46 PM
Just curious, what program or script are you going to use to cycle the sites? I'm interested, but does anyone have something setup to send an even amount to them all?

jdresse
January 28th, 2007, 03:58 AM
First five to reply to me get in on the test.
I'm replying :clap:

Cyclops
January 28th, 2007, 04:08 AM
I'm replying as well.

As to a script to do this, well heres a free one that can be used, I have looked into some similar ones and this seems to be the best one I have come across.
www.pluginprofitrotator.com/

piplewis
January 28th, 2007, 04:15 AM
I'll be up for giving this a try, let me know when it's sorted.
Cheers.

spaceboos
January 28th, 2007, 07:50 AM
I have not heard from only one person.

list so far

jdresse
spaceboos
Selena
Cyclops
piplewis

One more could be used but not really nessesary. I would like to do a run test on the rotator. I will put it on my site for one day. wont be many hits but will show if we get an equal amount. Please all above send me your site urls you want to use. I will set this up and let everyone know which day it goes on to monitor the hits ratio.

Thanks

jdresse
January 28th, 2007, 08:57 AM
If you need I can also try your rotator on my site. In fact we could have a coop in between ourselves also... Don't know how "fair" this would be for bigger sites though. My URL is www.mypsace.org

miller2348
January 28th, 2007, 10:04 AM
If you have room for another, let me know. I said I was interested, just wanted to know how you were rotating the urls.

dzerv
January 28th, 2007, 12:00 PM
i am in also if there is some room :-)

spaceboos
January 28th, 2007, 12:11 PM
Yes i was thinking this also. Might just as well go with it. Its ad free as long as i sign up for his enzine.

I'm replying as well.

As to a script to do this, well heres a free one that can be used, I have looked into some similar ones and this seems to be the best one I have come across.
www.pluginprofitrotator.com/


Please PM me urls so i can keep this straight. I would really appreciate it.
Im looking for 15 people total so all those that dont get in on the test and really want to try just post here. I will send pm with results to all that want in.

MSowner
January 28th, 2007, 12:37 PM
Count me in!

jakkz
March 1st, 2007, 04:42 PM
Please consider me as backup if all spots are filled, otherwise I'd be happy to be in ;)