McCain hates that the media loves Obama?

[Greg-J]

wtf...


http://www.johnmccain.com/video/love.htm

[Selena]

im really confused right now?

[CharmRoyal]

im really confused right now?

So am I, I don't understand that damn link he put on the post rofl :shifty:

[Greg-J]

I think we're all confused.

[CharmRoyal]

rofl yeah all I understood was

"You're only cool if you met Obama in person" :dots:

[Andrew2]

McCain's website is mocking the fact that Obama is getting more media attention.. It's an entirely sarcastic webpage, it's kind of odd but obviously shows some frustration/immaturity/jealousy on McCain's team..

I think the media and presidential candidates need to all step their game up and just act like adults, I know politicians will never be civil or smart but a level of professionalism is expected and McCain having that page at least does not deliver those expectations.. I have no reason to vote for McCain as far as I know but that's mostly because I haven't heard enough about what he does (because of what he is complaining about with the Media being focused on Obama)..

[Greg-J]

I'm not confused as to what it is, or the point they're making - but wtf?

[Andrew2]

Yeah it's not something I'd thought I'd see on a presidential candidate page, they're all kinds of retarded.

[Selena]

i figured it was sarcasm, but im with greg on this one.

wtf? :santa:

[Smurfwicked]

The point is clear to me. News Media is very bias, and its sad but true that a large amount of voters are basing their votes off what the image they get off the television and not actual facts.

Because it appears to me the war in Iraq is the primary issue for voters now I must say this:

What bothers me most about the war issue in politics, is I get the impression people who are against us staying in Iraq any longer think that our brave troops over there are wanting to come home. Being in the US Army Infantry myself this is so far from the truth. Maybe we should of never went there in the first place, but we did, and we've lost family and friends over there because of that, for us to pack up and come home now would be sending a message to all those who've lost somebody over there that it was all for nothing! Nearly all members of the military support McCain, that should tell you something.

McCain is one of the few members of congress that actually has children in the military who has served in Iraq if you did not know!

You see all these so called specialist on TV talk about what needs to be done. Talk is cheap, the ones who has the courage to enlist and serve are those who are really making a difference in the world.

I wish more people would do more research of whats really going on. Iran is a serious threat to us & especially our allies in the middle-east. Iran already has chemical weapons we've seen them use them. Our current placement in Iraq is important military strategic move for a potential and highly likely future war with Iran which is going to be 100 times nastier than what we've all seen Iraq. The brave members of the armed forces are doing a job that they don't one their children to one day have to do because we neglected to do so. People should give more respect to that.

[Greg-J]

So we should stay for the sake of saving face? People are being slaughtered on both sides over there, and the discussion you want to have is about the type of message we'd be sending? I don't know if we should stay or go, but I sure as hell wouldn't base my decision off public perception when human life is involved.

An interesting tidbit to take into consideration in your argument that our troops are all about seeing it through is that Ron Paul received a great deal more money in donations from US troops than any other candidate. A candidate that argued we should pull out immediately. Just food for thought.

McCain is one of the few members of congress that actually has children in the military who has served in Iraq if you did not know!

Doesn't McCain also have a gay daughter that he doesn't think should be allowed to get married? I'm guessing his children's happiness isn't top priority so that point is pretty irrelevant to me.

Please don't make the point that everyone who enlists is courageous and wants to defend the country either. Everyone I know that is in Iraq or has been to Iraq, did not enlist knowing they would be going. I know there are a lot of people who enlisted knowing full well where they would be going and did so with the most noble of intentions, but the vast majority of Army recruits are from very small towns where it's either enlist or work the farm/mill/logging/etc. They're also not the ones making the difference. Whether it be a good difference or a bad difference, it is those in power that are making that difference. The soldiers used to carry that difference out are instruments to make a difference. McCain was a P.O.W., not a war hero. Being held captive as a prisoner of war for any length of time is terrible, but it doesn't make him an expert on war.

As for other threats, let's take a look at why a nation who would like to harm us would like to harm us and examine that as much as the threat itself. Remember, we're the country with a scorched earth policy. Attacking us is akin to destroying the planet, and if that happens - so be it.

If I can make one suggestion: Stop assuming we as a race deserve to exist, let alone we as a country. Start asking why we deserve to exist and answer with action, not words. If your answer to this question is accompanied by war or violence, my response would be: You don't.

I think people in general are all too willing to take the moral high ground to save face, but there is a truth underneath all the bull**** that is far less glamorous.





My one post I have time for today and waste it on politics. Ugh.

[spotlight-shure]

they're all kinds of retarded.
lmao politics can be funny

[marshall_26]

Doesn't McCain also have a gay daughter that he doesn't think should be allowed to get married? I'm guessing his children's happiness isn't top priority so that point is pretty irrelevant to me.



Thought that was Cheney?? ...idk


McCain was a P.O.W., not a war hero. Being held captive as a prisoner of war for any length of time is terrible, but it doesn't make him an expert on war.


I disagree I mean it's all too easy to make decisions when it has nothing to do with you, but when you have experienced it first hand I believe those decisions are a lot more cautiously thought out.

I prefer not to get into politics.. it's always the lesser of two evils but I have nothing bad to say about MCcain he has given a lot more than most!

[Smurfwicked]

I don't think this is a suitable place to be debating politics but you've started the thread others have stated their views, it wouldn't be right for me not to express and back mine. I am open minded enough that not to hold anything personal against someones political views. :)


Doesn't McCain also have a gay daughter that he doesn't think should be allowed to get married? I'm guessing his children's happiness isn't top priority so that point is pretty irrelevant to me.


I am pretty sure that would be **** Cheney's daughter.


Please don't make the point that everyone who enlists is courageous and wants to defend the country either. Everyone I know that is in Iraq or has been to Iraq, did not enlist knowing they would be going. I know there are a lot of people who enlisted knowing full well where they would be going and did so with the most noble of intentions, but the vast majority of Army recruits are from very small towns where it's either enlist or work the farm/mill/logging/etc. They're also not the ones making the difference. Whether it be a good difference or a bad difference, it is those in power that are making that difference. The soldiers used to carry that difference out are instruments to make a difference.


I am not going to disagree that yes even today people are enlisting thinking they'll never go to war. Those recruits from small towns and urban ghettos offer young people a good path and educational future in life that without it wouldn't of likely made it anywhere.


McCain was a P.O.W., not a war hero. Being held captive as a prisoner of war for any length of time is terrible, but it doesn't make him an expert on war.

Define hero? IMO all those who've step foot on the battlefield and faced the enemy is a hero in my eyes! And to say that any person that has went thru what McCain did as a POW is not a hero is just silly!


As for other threats, let's take a look at why a nation who would like to harm us would like to harm us and examine that as much as the threat itself. Remember, we're the country with a scorched earth policy. Attacking us is akin to destroying the planet, and if that happens - so be it.


Can't disagree with you here, after all our country implies that its "The Greatest Nation In The World" to every other country out there including our allies. If you had somebody walking around your office saying "I'm the best employee here" wouldn't you want to knock him out?

[Ajay]

ummmm that's **** cheney's daughter, mccain doesn't have a gay daughter

[Andrew2]

Hmm, Penis Cheney -John McCain..same thing... Old White Guy in our government..
(Cheney's real name is filtered)..

[marshall_26]

Hmm, Penis Cheney -John McCain..same thing... Old White Guy in our government..
(Cheney's real name is filtered)..

True but with age comes wisdom (well sometimes...lmao)

Seriously though I look back at my teen yrs now like wtf was I thinking.....:whistling:

Maybe in another 10 I'll be saying the same thing ;)

I guess the point is maybe older people are more suitable for the position.

[Ajay]

i don't think age should play a factor here. Churchill wrapped up his second term at age 81. Come to think of it, you could probably pull out some superficial parallels between churchill and mccain if you really wanted to.

[marshall_26]

i don't think age should play a factor here. Churchill wrapped up his second term at age 81. Come to think of it, you could probably pull out some superficial parallels between churchill and mccain if you really wanted to.

Probably shouldn't but it's my opinion of course... I really don't think anyone under 35 should be president, I mean you have to have "some" life experience first, lets face it at one time we all thought we knew it all only to find out we where wrong.

I really think older is better for this position :)

Anyway I am out of here I dislike politics, and religion topics, they are way too heated for me!

[Smurfwicked]

Probably shouldn't but it's my opinion of course... I really don't think anyone under 35 should be president, I mean you have to have "some" life experience first, lets face it at one time we all thought we knew it all only to find out we where wrong.

I really think older is better for this position :)

Anyway I am out of here I dislike politics, and religion topics, they are way too heated for me!

I wouldn't say older is always best the case, but John McCain certainly has a much more experience!

You have Obama who only has 3 years of Senate experience versus McCain who has 21 years in the Senate plus 4 years in the House.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

A 3 year n00b vs a 25 year veteran, you decide 2008!

[Andrew2]

Kennedy was young, he was president... Just because Obama is young and only has a few years of "senate experience" doesn't mean he's less qualified for presidency.. Also no one under 35 can possibly be president, there is an age limit which is 35.

Obama is 46, McCain is 70.

And my opinion on McCain being a war hero, well good for him but serving in war won't reduce taxes, fix our economy, reduce gas prices, provide educational funding, take on global warming etc. He is a successful senator however, I'd honestly be okay with either of them winning and I might even vote for McCain... Barack promises change but I don't know how we can just believe someone who doesn't have much of a past to back himself up while McCain is a flexible individual who often disagrees with his party and deals with things even if it's different from when he announced and I do feel a bit bad about his media situation because they really do focus on Obama..

I was watching Fox news and they had this 5 minute long segment about McCain being in Berlin, showed him talking about the wall and what it symbolized then said he said he wasn't there as president but as a citizen.. 20 minutes later in the news cast they basically said McCain was in Philidelphia trying to gain publicity attention and retaliating against Obama's past remark.. The End. Yes I'm sure that's all McCain did all week...(Sarcasm).. It's f-cked up.. My mind is always being changed about this election, it's my first election though and I will take part in voting and I plan on doing more research.

[Smurfwicked]

And my opinion on McCain being a war hero, well good for him but serving in war won't reduce taxes, fix our economy, reduce gas prices, provide educational funding, take on global warming etc. He is a successful senator however, I'd honestly be okay with either of them winning and I might even vote for McCain... Barack promises change but I don't know how we can just believe someone who doesn't have much of a past to back himself up while McCain is a flexible individual who often disagrees with his party and deals with things even if it's different from when he announced and I do feel a bit bad about his media situation because they really do focus on Obama..

I was watching Fox news and they had this 5 minute long segment about McCain being in Berlin, showed him talking about the wall and what it symbolized then said he said he wasn't there as president but as a citizen.. 20 minutes later in the news cast they basically said McCain was in Philidelphia trying to gain publicity attention and retaliating against Obama's past remark.. The End. Yes I'm sure that's all McCain did all week...(Sarcasm).. It's f-cked up.. My mind is always being changed about this election, it's my first election though and I will take part in voting and I plan on doing more research.

This is just my opinion and my observation. Yes Obama is the promising lower gas prices and lots of changes that I don't even know what they are or how he intends to make them work. I am very un-easy knowing somebody intends to change things that doesn't really detail what or how. As senator Obama for 3 years now he has had the chance to purpose new bills that supports all that he is promising now, why hasn't he done this already? While McCain, straight forwardly says there is not a quick fix to the energy crisis. That tells me he is giving his honest no bull**** assessment looking more at the long term and not a move that will make him shine during his presidency to become a major problem for the next.

Taxes, Economy, Global Warming, and Education are extremely important matters to me too. From my research I can see that McCain vows to fight Global Warming and has already showed me that he sees the importance of higher education standards (http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_McCain_Education.htm). But other issues from both McCain and Obama that I know of so far does not differ enough to swing my vote either way, but the war on terror (http://terrorism.about.com/od/issuestrends/a/McCainTerror.htm) and national security does.

To get to the point, that is great that you're "doing more research." Which was the reason for me posting here, hoping I'd prevent some people from making decisions from what learned here, and raising new points that hopefully look into. Its not just young people that do this! I know plently of middle aged people that vote for who their employer is for, parents, friends and relatives. At one point I strongly was steered by who other people around me (mostly my parents & people I looked up to) was voting for and when those people are doing the same thing, you end up voting somebody into office that nobody really knew anything about. Main thing, do the research cause we all know that only the bad news gets reported.

[Christinax]

Mmmm. I'm confussed.ha

[Andrew2]

Oh I just realized I wrote McCain instead of Obama being in Berlin..

I was watching Fox news and they had this 5 minute long segment about Obama being in Berlin,

[Greg-J]

I guess that was Richard Cheney. I wasn't sure, which is why I asked :online2long:

[rufus]

Personally I dont see the American public voting anyone in office with the name Barack Hussein Obama in the office of Presidency.

Regardless of what color he is or what he has done in his life or even if he denounces the Islam religion 1000 times over.

Yes I know its just a name but it bothers me as well as many many others I have spoken to.

Some may say its shallow but to each his or her own.

Heres a pretty interesting read....

http://www.slate.com/id/2155434/pagenum/all/

[moonstar]

... Iran is a serious threat to us & especially our allies in the middle-east.

I can't see how Iran is any more of a threat to the US than Iraq was before the current war, i.e. completely exaggerated.
They should just be honest and say the hype is primarily because of the threat to Israel, which seems a bit more realistic.