CPX and Valueclick

[dondeal]

Currently I'm 2k per day and growing daily. (All of the 2k is organic search engine traffic)

I can understand that it's hard to get into Valueclick. If anyone has any inside info on how to get into them then please pm me. I see some smaller sites with 300 uniques and the likes running valueclick.

CPX keeps denying me. They say I don't have enough uniques but there is no accurate public stat counter that will tell them my uniques. They don't even ask for access to my private stats.

Any help please?

[chprosites]

I got a message back from valueclick a couple of weeks ago saying they are not accepting websites of this niche anymore.

[ajarchibald3]

1. The network might have enough of that particular category of sites so unless you are site worth replacing one of the sites in the network then they will often refuse.
2. Standard level of impressions they are typically also looking for a certain number of impressions a day. So you can be a site that get's 2000 uniques per day but if they are only going to 4 pages vs. the guy who has 1000 uniques and they are going to 10 pages a day then the 1000 uniques person has more sellable inventory than the 2k uniques.
3. Internal resources - similar to 1. each time a network brings on a site they have to have someone manage that site. So if they are short on manpower they might delay letting new sites in until they hire more people.

[ajarchibald3]

Finally look at other sources of revenue a site like yours should make around 100 bucks a day minimum if properly monetized. So that should be your goal.

[Nora]

I got into VC with less than 100 uniques a day a few months ago, I also had less content than most resource sites so I doubt it has anything to do with that. You could always ask them why they rejected your site, at least then you know what you have to work on :)

[chprosites]

Finally look at other sources of revenue a site like yours should make around 100 bucks a day minimum if properly monetized. So that should be your goal.


100 bucks a day on 2k uniques?....I want what hes having!!!

[ajarchibald3]

I'm thinking of making a guide to help people on here monetize properly. Do you think it would be worthwhile.

[misterproline]

I'm thinking of making a guide to help people on here monetize properly. Do you think it would be worthwhile.

Checkout http://makemoneymyspace.blogspot.com/ or http://www.myspacerevenue.net/

[nsmchris]

I'm thinking of making a guide to help people on here monetize properly. Do you think it would be worthwhile.

If you can show people how to make $100/day on 2k myspace traffic then yeah, everyone on here would be interested.

[WarBud]

If you can show people how to make $100/day on 2k myspace traffic then yeah, everyone on here would be interested.

I know I would be interested. $50 per 1k/uv for MySpace visitors would be like finding the holy grail.

[SlickEddie]

Finally look at other sources of revenue a site like yours should make around 100 bucks a day minimum if properly monetized. So that should be your goal.

the fat lady has sung? or hell hath frozen over? or perhaps, Paula Abdul now speaks/judges intelligably?

[ajarchibald3]

Let me start organizing my thoughts and get something up.

[dondeal]

Let me start organizing my thoughts and get something up.

This thread isn't about how to properly monetize my site as it already makes money and I have more spots set up for more ad networks. I just need to get in . (As far as 50 and 100 per 1000 uniques ...get real ... unless your running 20 pop-ups and it'll be not long before google hits you with a "site warning" in the serps and you'll start getting banned from ad networks for excessive advertising. Maybe in another niche but not myspace.)

And also, for the person that is talking about I don't have enough pageviews and etc. Like I said, they have no way of knowing anything if I don't provide them private access to my stats. They simply make a judgement using whatever outside resources they have.

I'll probably just wait until I get more uniques. I made it jump from 100 a day to 2k in 2 weeks from seo. If I keep it up I'll be at 10k next month. The thing is they don't know my accurate stats unless I provide them access. They say no before asking for any stat information.

[Taghyra]

I'll probably just wait until I get more uniques. I made it jump from 100 a day to 2k in 2 weeks from seo. If I keep it up I'll be at 10k next month. The thing is they don't know my accurate stats unless I provide them access. They say no before asking for any stat information.


IT'S NOT ABOUT UVS................................ seriously is not

[NYCBORN]

You guys are all on crack LOL

[Taghyra]

You guys are all on crack LOL

ha ......................... ha .............................ha :poop: :poop: :poop:

[jvuonger]

Don't be in a rush to get into CPX.....0.05 CPM lawl...

[Taghyra]

i want them :-((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

[dondeal]

Uniques=Traffic=Money ... I'm in it for the money, so its all about the uniques ....

[Taghyra]

I'm talking about getting in................

[NYCBORN]

CPX is utter crap. Send them a few million impressions and you might be able to buy a happy meal at mcdonalds with a coupon.

Adversal is better.

[ajarchibald3]

Dondeal,

I agree it's about the uniques but in terms of what you can make per unique you are incorrect you just don't know how to properly monetize it yet. I just came back from ASW and there are guys STILL making 150k a day on myspace with around 100k uniques. I'm not close to that level but you just have to be more creative in your thinking and look at the assets you have to monetize and monetize all of them. .50 per 1000 uniques is very doable. If you push harder you can attain 1 per 1000 uniques. If you just rely on adsense or some crap *** remnant ad network you have no shot. All those get rich on the internet blogs alot of people read here and other places look at what they are doing and apply some of those techniques. Look at the different ways they monetize their sites and apply that same thinking but to myspace. Those guys look at and think like their target audience to sell them what they want. You should do the same.

[nsmchris]

150k a day on myspace with around 100k uniques.

Are you talking american dollars or rupies??? Because no one is making $150k US a day on 100K traffic in the myspace market. No one.

[Ajay]

yeah, that's really hard to believe... 150k a day? maybe a month.


Are you talking american dollars or rupies??? Because no one is making $150k US a day on 100K traffic in the myspace market. No one.

[ajarchibald3]

the numbers work like this chris. 100k uniques a day - 10% conv rate - 15 dollar offer. I not only met the individual at asw. I also talked to the ad network which ran the offer he's using and they confirmed it. You just gotta try more ****.

[ajarchibald3]

and to confirm it was all myspace traffic. Which I asked specifically.

[Ajay]

if what you say is true, you need to write a tutorial. i have no experience with cpa ads, just cpm and cpc so I don't know what to believe .....

and to confirm it was all myspace traffic. Which I asked specifically.

[ajarchibald3]

Learn more about affiliate marketing. People like Shoemoney, John Chow, etc. are but the tip of the iceburg. Now I'm not saying the guy makes 150k a day for a full year or anything like that but for a short burst that's what he's making.

[nsmchris]

and to confirm it was all myspace traffic. Which I asked specifically.

A 10% conversion rate on a non-free item in a market where the majority of users are minors without credit cards is amazing. Then factor in 30%+ of that is indian/brazillian/filipino traffic.

[chprosites]

If i were making anywhere from $100-$1000 dollars per 1000 unique visits, i wouldn't tell anyone my secret method for fear of the market getting too overwhelmed "cough cough adesnse" I bet there is a sign up fee for this get rich "method."

[minnseoelite]

from my experience and a few other posts i have seen on here cpa ads are crap for a myspace site. like chris said our traffic is mostly teens with no credit cards and most of those decent paying cpa offers are not stuff that teens are interested in.

i have seen a few people say they have done a decent job with ring tone CPA offers and similar teen oriented offers but those pay .50 - $2 per conversion....a far cry from the $15 per conversion offers you're talking about.

[ajarchibald3]

It should be obvious what they are promoting. to get that kind of payout without a credit card

[ajarchibald3]

minn you are on the right track but wrong about the payouts

[nsmchris]

It should be obvious what they are promoting. to get that kind of payout without a credit card

So pushing porno to kids? great.

[ajarchibald3]

simply put you can get a 15 dollar ringtone offer with a simple phone number submit and text back. The parent ends up paying the bill because the teen doesn't have to enter a credit card just the pin number sent to the phone to confirm

[Ajay]

porn would require a credit card i think.. i think he means leads... and stuff like webfetti that don't need a cc

[ajarchibald3]

If you have a site with tons of verifiable targeted traffic you can cut direct deals on your traffic not going through some stupid company like valueclick or the cpa companies for that matter.

[ajarchibald3]

On some of my larger music sites I don't have to go to azoogle to do a ringtone offer I go direct to the source and cut out the middleman. People with very large sites should do that but most either don't have the know how or don't want to hire an online sales team. So they just get bought by a company that has one. LOL

[wce]

rofl, if the person was making $150k/day off 100k/day traffic, they wouldn't have 100k/day traffic for long, I can tell you that much. They would be doing millions from buying traffic and sites because while the rest of the real world is making $10 per 1000 if you're lucky, you're saying they're making $1500 per thousand.. and converting 10% of your traffic to a ringtone offer? be lucky to get even a 10% ctr let alone conversion rate......

Why wouldn't they buy every single myspace site? If anyone was converting like that they would go and drop $100 million+ for sites like pimp-my-profile, pyzam etc.... what you're saying is at $1500 per thousand, pyzam could be making $165,000,000 per year? I'm sure pyzam would be more than willing to give you $150,000,000 of it if you teach them the tricks... no offense, and hey, if someone is really making that, great, but they're really stupid for not buying more sites... but it's very hard to believe.... you're talking these big sites would be making hundreds of times what these ringtone companies are even worth.. would be very hard to believe they could afford those payouts

[Nora]

And also, for the person that is talking about I don't have enough pageviews and etc. Like I said, they have no way of knowing anything if I don't provide them private access to my stats. They simply make a judgement using whatever outside resources they have.
My site's Alexa stats were somewhere in the millions back then.. I know Alexa is total crap but that would have showed that my site wasn't getting a good amount of traffic. I really don't know their way of reviewing sites but its definitely not only about uniques.

[ajarchibald3]

1. I didn't say the guy used a site to do this
2. read the posts on uberaffiliate or wickedfire about the guy who owns google for ringtones over the weekend. Every single listing is his.
3. is 4 mil a mth really so hard to believe. Again I got this straight from the Guy and after I didn't believe him the AM. To put it in perspective Adult friendfinder which has great traffic just got bought for 500 mil. There are sites in that same traffic range that wouldn't go for half as much. It's about how you build your business and on what revenue streams.
4. And I should have prefaced it by saying that amt is gross who knows what their net is?

[dondeal]

CPX is utter crap. Send them a few million impressions and you might be able to buy a happy meal at mcdonalds with a coupon.

Adversal is better.

It's now 9 days and they still have contacted me. I shot them an email today to followup.

They do say it takes 5-7 business days. That's still quite long ...