YPN, oh how it sucks...

[CharmRoyal]

Dear Sharon,

Thank you for applying for the Yahoo! Publisher Network beta program. We have reviewed your request and we regret to inform you that you were not accepted into the program. As the program is currently in beta, we are accepting a very limited number of new publishers. We will keep your contact information on file and let you know when we launch to the general public, or if we are able to invite you to join the beta before then. To maximize your chances for approval in the future, please make sure:

* You have a valid U.S. Social Security or Tax ID number, and web site content that is predominately in English and targeted at a U.S. user base.
* Your site provides a good user experience. Please see our complete list of guidelines for a positive user experience here.
* Your site does not contain problematic content. Please see our guidelines for displaying our ad results here.

Thanks again for your interest. We look forward to welcoming you into our program when it is open to the public.

Sincerely,

The Yahoo! Publisher Network Team

I just checked my other email to find this... how sad... :(

Sharon is my mom by the way.

[mawt]

It sucks because you weren't excepted?
Thats a bit silly.


* Your site provides a good user experience. Please see our complete list of guidelines for a positive user experience here.


Maybe it's that one? They might not think it's looks professional or something stupid like that.

[Connections]

why would you want YPN at this stage any way.

google probly will work better..

sucks but

[CharmRoyal]

Yeah it sucks because I wasn't accepted... :/

I did look at the user experience guidelines... nothing seemed to be wrong.

I don't see how it's silly to say it sucks that I wasn't accepted?

:pinch:

Edit:
I asked someone their opinion on here and it led me to Yahoo. I'm not as smart as the rest of you guys here about this, so I just signed up...

I'm already with Google and it's not really that impressive, at least not to me.

[letoutpuissant]

Yahoo is still in beta. Unless you have an extremely impressive site or have an extremely large volume of traffic, chances are you won't be accepted. It's better to apply for a different site and then you can add your ads afterward. Regardless, Yahoo can and will ban you if they feel your traffic isn't high enough quality, etc. Adsense is your best bet at this point, along with other types of non-contextual ad networks.

[CharmRoyal]

I understand that... I was just applying... you know, you can't win the lottery if you don't play.

But thanks for letting me know! :)

I guess Google is my best bet. But sometimes it upsets me on how hard I work on my site and I never get accepted to the good Ad companies. Even if my site doesn't look like it was hard work, it was. It makes me even more mad to see a billion MSRS sites getting into all these things when they are just a $200 script and a couple hundred dollars worth of crappy graphics.

:dots:

Excuse me, $300 script... :s

[Ajay]

ypn hates myspace sites since they don't convert well. that's probably the main reason why you got rejected. most people who have ypn have probably had it earlier when it was much easier to get in.

[letoutpuissant]

I understand that... I was just applying... you know, you can't win the lottery if you don't play.

But thanks for letting me know! :)

I guess Google is my best bet. But sometimes it upsets me on how hard I work on my site and I never get accepted to the good Ad companies. Even if my site doesn't look like it was hard work, it was. It makes me even more mad to see a billion MSRS sites getting into all these things when they are just a $200 script and a couple hundred dollars worth of crappy graphics.

:dots:

Excuse me, $300 script... :s

You'll get there. It sucks having to work your way up and up but it pays off. Also try other things than MySpace sites if you haven't already :)

[CharmRoyal]

Thanks, I hope I will! :)

I have already thought about something other than a MySpace site too.

I will say that I'm not really all in it for the money... I'm only 16 so it's just a hobby. I'm proud of what I have made so far though.

[omen]

It might have been hard work to you, but probably to them and alot of other people it looks like a little playground for a young girl.

[CharmRoyal]

It might have been hard work to you, but probably to them and alot of other people it looks like a little playground for a young girl.

Thanks for your opinion.

Could you give me more examples of some girly MySpace sites that also look like a "little playground for a young girl" because honestly... what girly MySpace site doesn't? :sweatdrop:

[Connections]

Yeah it sucks because I wasn't accepted... :/

I did look at the user experience guidelines... nothing seemed to be wrong.

I don't see how it's silly to say it sucks that I wasn't accepted?

:pinch:

Edit:
I asked someone their opinion on here and it led me to Yahoo. I'm not as smart as the rest of you guys here about this, so I just signed up...

I'm already with Google and it's not really that impressive, at least not to me.


if google isnt that impressive YPN wont be much more sorry to say.

just try and work hard on your content IE text on the site.

its not hard to make $5/ 1000 impressions with a myspace site with he right text on pages.

[CharmRoyal]

Well I don't expect to make as much as you people do, I'd just like to have a Google ad, maybe a VC ad, and another ad. Not just solely Google. Even if I did just make a couple dollars off each. Like I said, I'm not brilliant with this stuff. I'll never be accepted into VC, don't say I'm negative, because I was once optimistic about this... well not anymore.

Thanks for the advice though, I will work on that... :)

[omen]

Basically any kawaiiville type site CharmRoyal

[Sean]

why would you want YPN at this stage any way.

google probly will work better..

sucks but

LOL.. before YPN disabled my account's ad targeting, I was averaging around $130 a day over the last 2 months. Google pays better? Nope.. I'm now making under $10 a day with adsense.

[omen]

Google's ****ing **** now for MSRS

Try using other networks like clicksor and adversal.com

[CharmRoyal]

Clicksor is annoying, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it where they turn text into certain link ads?

I signed up for Adversal just to see how it was, but after a day of using it, I refused to put the pop ups on my site.

Doesn't matter thanks for the help though, I didn't really start the thread to sound like I was whining about not being accepted, it was just like a "Oh I knew that was coming" kind of thing. I guess some took it the wrong way.

[Sergio]

YPN doesn't accept MySpace sites (based on what I've seen). Apply with another site. They're not that good anymore though. I used to make as much as $40 per day with 1000 uniques. Ahhh, those were the good old days. :) Now they suck but they're better than nothing.

[CharmRoyal]

I'm not going to try with any other advertising companies, I'm sticking with Google and my *cough* few bucks a week.

I've decided that since my site is just a playground for young girls, it's just a waste of my time when I could be having a life.

Fail.

[Sergio]

I'm not going to try with any other advertising companies, I'm sticking with Google and my *cough* few bucks a week.

I've decided that since my site is just a playground for young girls, it's just a waste of my time when I could be having a life.

Fail.
http://i29.tinypic.com/23r3edv.jpg

[CharmRoyal]

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[SamOwen]

If you were planning on putting it on your MySpace site then it's a good thing you didn't get in now. You probably would've been banned for poor traffic quality.

[CharmRoyal]

When you go to apply, I don't see anything about traffic besides monthly page views but it doesn't necessarily say how many you need
I probably missed it if does say

The application looks nice and easy, they should make it more strict, eh...

Maybe they won't have to waste their time then with sites like mine, huh?

Doesn't matter

Thanks for the tips

[SamOwen]

Trust me... YPN + MSRS = banned.

It's not only MySpace sites, I remember arcade sites were getting the boot as well. The bottom line is if you don't convert well for them they will boot you.

[CharmRoyal]

The only way to get tons of traffic is to know SEO, if you don't know SEO, you let the script do the work for you

If you don't use a script, then you're screwed

That's how I interpret it

I'm happy I even get a little more than 1,000 hits day, but to most here, that's nothing... I don't know why I sound like I'm complaining, it's just like trying to compete with the big sites when I don't have a chance, ha

BUT I should have the chance, I'm sorry omen, but you really offended me :(

[Sergio]

Trust me... YPN + MSRS = banned.

It's not only MySpace sites, I remember arcade sites were getting the boot as well. The bottom line is if you don't convert well for them they will boot you.
That's not true after they introduced smart-pricing.

[Sean]

Trust me... YPN + MSRS = banned.

It's not only MySpace sites, I remember arcade sites were getting the boot as well. The bottom line is if you don't convert well for them they will boot you.

Right, after you make and get paid thousands of dollars more then what you would have with adsense :)

[Ajay]

SEO is not the end all be all... there are other methods of promotion for myspace sites... mostly through myspace itself.

as far as scripts are concerned, they don't make the site. There are more failing MSRS sites than there are successful ones, much like the niche itself where there are a lot more failing resource sites than successful ones.

i don't even bother with SEO, in fact google bot can't even go past my index, because the paths are blocked in my robots.txt (don't ask me why i am just retarded).

the only seo you need to know is that when you link to people use some sort of keyword in the anchor tag.


The only way to get tons of traffic is to know SEO, if you don't know SEO, you let the script do the work for you

If you don't use a script, then you're screwed

That's how I interpret it

I'm happy I even get a little more than 1,000 hits day, but to most here, that's nothing... I don't know why I sound like I'm complaining, it's just like trying to compete with the big sites when I don't have a chance, ha

BUT I should have the chance, I'm sorry omen, but you really offended me :(

[xJennax]

Melissa I'm sorry you feel that way.

Don't feel like you're a failure because the graphics and wesite you produce is a great achievement, it's a great ability to be able to do that it may not seem like it coz it is a very competitive/full niche.

The fact you didn;t get acccepted doesn't make you a failure. Like you said it's a hobby for you, so if you enjoy doing it you've already succeeded.

1000 u/v is great, I'm not making that much yet! haha.
If you're wanting to earn money though try thinking outside the box ecause it is hard in the myspace niche.

Don't give up. :)

[CharmRoyal]

Thanks Ajay

Seems I do do these things, but that's the longer route to take.


I just wanted to say (and I'm hoping this is my last post in this thread) that I'm only 16. I started learning this whole website stuff when I was 11 or 12. I've progressed throughout the years. I own a ton of HTML books and PhotoShop books. I've sat in Barnes and Noble for hours reading all of these kinds of books.

I spent hours and hours and hours on the computer working on that little "playground"... in fact I started in December of 2006. I don't even hang out or talk to any of my friends I used to have because I dedicated ALL of my time to working on learning everything I possibly could. I lost all those friends actually, if you wanted to know...

I just joined this forum not too long ago, only to find out everyones site here is basically more than successful. For awhile there, I wanted mine to be too.

What Omen said completely destroyed my ego and I'm not lying, I actually feel sad about it... I feel real bad.

But don't be sorry, because it's the truth.

[Selena]

Theres no need to be so down about it. I know what omen said hurt you, but its nothing to truly get you down. The reason for your failure isn't what omen said, its your belief that you're doomed for failure. Its a pretty simple concept, even eaiser than the ones you mentioned above. If you believe you will be successful, then you will. If you believe you will fail, you will fail.

I'm 16, just like you. Before I started focusing on my grades again, I had a site that was getting 2000 hits a day. To me that was good. I didn't compare myself to everyone that was way higher than me, although I did look to them as inspiration, but rather, I thought about all the little guys who got less than me, and what I did to do better than they did. I worked toward where I wanted to be, and celebrated where I no longer was (as far as progress was concerned).

Your problem is your negativity. Until you start believing that you can do it, you wont ever get anywhere. If you think 1000 is bad, with that frame of mind you won't ever improve, but you'll probably go down.

This isn't a cutdown note, this is some inspiration. Try to do better. You aren't hurting anyone by not trying, you're only hurting yourself. Don't let all those hours of reading and lost friends go to waste. Do something with that knowlege and determination.

[omen]

To get to 1000/day on your own is a damn good effort, . Remind me later, and I'll show you how to turn that 1000 into 3k in a week

[Sergio]

Selena, I couldn't agree more.

And Melissa, just get it through your head that your site isn't the problem, the niche is.

[minnseoelite]

Try using myspace sites for the easy traffic and then steering that traffic towards a higher paying niche site that would still interest myspace users such as teen sites, ring tone sites, ect.

[Ad disengaged]

YPN is picky, but the payout is very very nice